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remingtons new classic for 2002
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Posted by: pahunter36 ® 12/12/2001, 00:33:18 Author Profile

hi gang just seen the flyer from grice gun shop here in pa it seems remington has decided to go with the 221 fireball for this years classic. although many of us love and adore the 17's i think this gun will be a nice addition. if it shoots anything like the old xp-100 it should be alot of fun good shooting pahunter36

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Posted by: jim saubier 12/12/2001, 07:43:19

I agree that it might be nice as a fireball, but would also make a nice .17 mach IV later in life it didn't shoot up to snuff. I really like the stock on the classic 700.




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Re: remingtons new classic for 2002
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Posted by: Michael Prudhomme 12/12/2001, 19:11:27

I thought Remington quit making .221 rounds. Why, then, would they introduce a new rifle in that caliber? Nevertheless, I'm glad they did. I have .221 XP100's, and regret Remington's dropping that caliber. Is the brass still available, or do we have to make it from .222-class brass when the old stock is used up?




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Posted by: Chris ® 12/12/2001, 20:27:50 Author Profile

Yes, you still can get 221 brass. Check Midway or Midsouth, they generally have it in stock.




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Posted by: Mark D 12/28/2001, 00:01:39

I have some 221 brass I would like to sell. Thanks! Mark




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Posted by: Michael Prudhomme 12/15/2001, 11:56:08

Chris, thanks for the info on where to get .221 brass. I've ordered enough to last as long as my barrels. Good shooting!




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Posted by: Michael Prudhomme 12/12/2001, 19:26:52

I posted this just now, but didn't seem to get to the forum. So here goes again, and my apologies if it hits a second time. My question is, I thought Remington has recently stopped production of their .221 cartridges. I wonder why they now are chambering it for their "Classic?"...maybe because it's no longer in producton? I love the .221, and have three XP100's in that caliber. When my brass is worn out, is there replacement factory brass still available, or will I have to buy a conversion die for the .222 base stock?




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What sub-calibers do you shoot
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Posted by: gard 12/12/2001, 01:27:45

Just wondering if some of the members would list what sub-calibers they shoot. Might be intersting to here of some of the more obscure cartridges and how they shoot. Never know this just might spark someones intrest in a new gun! I visited the board before I purchased my first sub-caliber and the people here helped me decied what to buy with terrefic advice. just like to say thanks to everyone. I have all encore barrels 17 hornet 20" untaperd 1/10 twist 17 IV 25" untaperd 1/10 twist 20 PPC 27" untaperd 1/12 twist and a 222 40x single shot just waiting to be rebarreld to a subcaliber when money comes avalible.

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Posted by: JD ® 12/12/2001, 05:18:52 Author Profile

I have in Encore 16.5" 17Ackley Bee Pistol 20" 17MK4 Rifle Rem 700 Classic 17 rem Ruger 77/22 Hornet, re-barreled and re-chambered to 17 Ackley bee BSA cadet re-barreled with custom everything in 17 Ackley Hornet plus form for most 17 and 14 Walker Hornet and 14 Walker fireball, and if you count 22 cal, I have a few 22 K-hornet, 22 Hornet, 223, 22-250, 220 swift, and many 22 mag and LR




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Posted by: jim saubier 12/12/2001, 07:41:44

I currently have the following. Contender barrels: .17 Remington 15" (see Winter edition of SCN) .17 Jet 21" .17 Hornet 10" .17 Hornet 21" Encore barrels: .17 Hebee 20" Remington 700 classic in .17 remington - with plans to rebarrel and chamber in .17 Javelina. Barrel is ordered and reamer is in hand.




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Posted by: Dan C ® 12/12/2001, 09:26:37 Author Profile

Cooper Varminter 17 Ackley Hornet with Weaver KT-15 with custom holdover dots by TK Lee. CZ 527 17 Ackley Hornet with Remington take-off barrel, Leupold 6-18x40. Cooper Varminter 17 Mach IV with Leupold 12X with holdover dots by Premier reticle. Cooper Varmint Extreme 17 Javelina with Leupold 12X boosted by Premier to 17X, holdover dots. Browning Micro Medallion 19 Calhoon, Leupold 4-12x40. Rem 700 19-223 custom with Weaver GS 6-20x40. Rem Model 7 custom 20 Tactical by Gre-Tan, Nikon 5.5-16.5x44. Thinking about a 14 cal next. Have absolutely no use for one, but when did that ever matter?? You guys know what I mean! Dan C




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Posted by: Tim 12/12/2001, 11:27:54

Cooper 38 in .17CCM, Cooper 21 in .17 Mach IV, Cooper 38 in .14 Walker Hornet, Gibbs Farquason in .17 hornet.




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Posted by: Dan C ® 12/12/2001, 11:36:10 Author Profile

Tim, tell me a little about your 14. What bullets have you tried, and what kind of performance are you getting? Cleaning equipment? Thanks. I've spoken to Jeff Lawrence, may just rebarrel that CZ 17 to the 14 Hornet........ Dan C




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Posted by: Tim 12/12/2001, 12:55:04

Well, Ive tried Bill Eichelberger's bullets and now using his 13 grainers with AA1680 for around 4200fps. I've heard Russ Lucas is making good bullets and plan to try some. I clean just like I do for BR, except now I use a $70 cleaning rod that bends really easy. The most daunting task is making cases but once that's done things are pretty standard other than trying to get thsat powder down that little hole, patience. When it's all said and done it's fun stuff. I've actually dropped a few gray squirrels, man they stop quick, plus zero recoil. Iv you like to screw around with this stuff it's fun, highly recommended.




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Posted by: russ lucas ® 12/18/2001, 00:15:17 Author Profile

Tim: Send me your address and I'll send you some samples. I have just ordered some 7s boattail dies!! russ




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Posted by: Dan C ® 12/21/2001, 00:43:44 Author Profile

Come on! 7S boat tail 14's?? You may have just pushed me over the edge Russ. I always felt that the current 14 cal bullets could possibly be made more ballistically efficient. Hope these new dies work out well. I'm moving closer to the 14 cal club.......... Dan C




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What kind of wind drift do you have with these?
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Posted by: Nick B 12/18/2001, 12:21:50

I've heard they are not very useful beyond 150 yds or so due to this, but have you found it to be true? Anyone have the BC of a .142 cal bullet? Thanks




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Posted by: russ lucas ® 12/18/2001, 23:38:11 Author Profile

First let me say that's .144, not .142 Jeff Lawrence has all the records from the Walker shop on the 14's they made, and they made no .142 barrels there. I understand that DKT made some .142 barrels, but the quality wasn't really up to Jeff's. If there is wind, the bullet will move quite a bit. I just ordered a set of 7s boattail dies, hoping that I can get a little heavier bullet to shoot. (vs. a flat base 6s which I make now) I have done some experimentation with tungsten powder, and have shot my best group with bullets with a powder core. Maybe a combination of the boattail and tungsten will help buck the wind and increase the effective range to 200 or beyond. I spoke with Blaine Eddy last week, and he said that his buddy shot a coyote beyond 200 yards with his 221/14, and it "put it right down". However, he said that it got up and escaped them a few minutes later. Blaine claims absolute drop dead kills at 150 yards, and says for distances for up to 150, the 14 is his rifle of choice. I have owned two 17's, and the 14 is much more fun. It does help if you make the bullets too......




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Posted by: Drifter 12/12/2001, 16:44:31

Right now the list is small. I have a rem 700 classic in 17 rem , love that one. Then I have a ss Encore, with 22" ss full bull in 17 m4 from bullberry, the wood is also from bullberry, trigger job, burris base and signature rings with a weaver v24 on top. this one is for sale. I am going to sell the encore and get my paws on a browning micro hunter that will go directly to shillen for a 17AH rebarrel. This is the one I really want to set up BAD. that's it for now




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Posted by: JD ® 12/13/2001, 13:24:52 Author Profile

Drifter drop me a e-mail




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Posted by: BROOKS 12/18/2001, 07:55:14

17 Ack Hornet---Cooper 17 Ack Hornet---Rampro 17 HeBee---Cooper 17 Ack Bee---Rampro 22 Mashburn Bee---Rampro 17 Squirrel---Encore 22 Squirrel---Encore 6mm K-Hornet---Encore 256 Super Mag---Encore Brooks




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Posted by: Tim 12/18/2001, 11:13:01

Brooks, how do you like the Rampro? Any problems? Who smithed them for you, etc.? Thanks




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Posted by: BROOKS 12/21/2001, 09:22:09

A guy names Mark DeArmond in Childress TX. He ain't a 'smith but got tired of waiting on custom guns to be built and bought a lathe. Hmmmmm My Rampro action and Douglas barrel he chambered and fitted shoots 20 gr. V-Max bullets into .2 consistently and many .1’s doubt he would do outside work, just had a gun to sell and I bought it. The second is from Rampro himself and just got it in yesterday so will report back 1-7-02. It is 17 Ack Bee and the first Rampro is in 17 Ack Hornet. I had an extractor problem with the first one but John at Rampro fixed--no charge and 2 day turn. Other than that, I love it and don't know about the 2nd. Beauty is in the shooting. Brooks




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