Posted by: Cindy ®
01/19/2002, 14:20:15
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Trying to locate a new Remington classic in 17 Remington caliber leftover from 1999. Hoping to find one left on someones shelf. Has anybody seen one lately? Appreciate your help. Thanks Cindy
csmit@pathway.net
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Posted by: Jody Henkle ®
01/19/2002, 17:31:40
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First off, great read! I have always had a facination with the 300 Whisper round. I was wondering if you have ever tried a sub sonic loading? I don't know if your twist rate is correct, but would be intrested in the groupping of heavy (220/240gr) .30 caliber bullets. Thanks again for a great article..........jh
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Posted by: jim saubier
01/21/2002, 07:53:47
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I have not tried any of the subsonic loads and my twist rate is not fast enough to stabilize the long .30 cal bullets. I believe that mine is a 10 twist but it may even be a 12 twist. I got the barrel with the intentions of using it for hunting and decided against trying to shoot subsonic since I didn't want to pay up for a suppressor anyway. I understand that even with the subsonic loads, the gun still has a crack but it is not as loud as a supersonic load. I am very pleased with the performance of this little round as you could tell.
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Posted by: Quarterbore Kenneth Westervelt
03/05/2002, 09:40:36
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I agree that this is a very well written description of the 300 Whisper. If I may be so cold, please visit my webpage at the linke below for additional history, background, and load details as provided by JD Jones of SSK industries who developed this excellent cartridge. I am always looking for additional information if anyone would care to contribute! Thanks!
Related link: My 300 Whisper Page
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Posted by: jim saubier
03/07/2002, 08:53:38
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No problem, I certainly looked at your webpage when I got my whisper, actually before I got the whisper. The data on the whisper is certainly limited but the round is simply amazing. It doesn't really add up, that a whisper can duplicate the velocities of a .30-30 in the same length barrels but have less recoil and muzzle flash and noise. For a handgun hunter who doesn't get hung up on the newest greatest handgun magnum, the Whisper is the answer. It doesn't take a .480 to kill a deer. The advantages of the whisper make it a much better handgun hunting round than any of those big revolvers, and it is much more pleasant to shoot.
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Posted by: Scott Hamilton ®
01/19/2002, 20:36:00
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What do you guys think? Is it possible to convert a Remington 5mm Mag. to the new 17 HRM? Where can I find the spec. on the 17 HRM? If it is the same as the 22 mag. the case head will be approx. .030" smaller than the 5mm and the case is longer. I think the extracter will still work, but the clip will not. Is this a possible use for the Remingtons? Thanks Scott
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Posted by: Nailman
01/20/2002, 11:49:33
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I have taken a .22 mag and sized it to 5mm and trimmed it and shot it in the 5mm Remington. It does extract it but does not eject it like it is suppose to do. I think you could rebuild a 591 in to a 17HMR but for the money I think it would be just as cost effective to buy a Marlin. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Posted by: jim saubier
01/21/2002, 07:57:20
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I am in agreement with Nailman. The Marlins are told to be very affordable in comparison to re-barreling and customizing your 591. If you are interested in doing something to the 591 to keep shooting it, then the changeover to the centerfire is the best option. I had a 591 that I had intended to rebarrel, convert to single shot, and chamber for a .17 ackley hornet or a .14 ackley hornet. The project never got funded and was cut in the name of budget defecit.
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Posted by: MikeP
01/21/2002, 10:54:33
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I think you guys are right. I'm in the process now of converting my 591 to 5mm centerfire. I haven't put in the Schroeder bolthead conversion yet, but will do so soon. I did reload 50 5mm centerfire cartridges this weekend, using the RCBS die and 40-grain softpoints and hollowpoints provided by Schroeder. This morning I ordered 200 33-grain V-Max .20s (read=5mm) from Hornady. I'm starting my reloading with an old supply of H2400 I've had around the house for a long while, but the AA#9 is said to provide the fastest velocity in the 5mm centerfire and I'll probably get around to obtaining some. I think the 2400 will be in the same performance ballpark, because its burn rate is listed right next to the #9 on two different burn-rate charts I've seen. One thing about reloading for this little round is that it will take forever to use a pound of powder: you get about 1150 shots per pound at about 6 grains per. I certainly won't care what the powder costs at that rate. I've read one report from a 5mm centerfire conversion fan that indicates he is achieving about 2600 fps from 30-grain bullets. That's about what I get out of my .221 Fireball XP100 using 50 grainers. I don't want to or have a need to heat it up that fast. I'll be happy getting about 2000 fps or so from the 40-grainers and maybe a couple hundred fps more from the 33-grain V-Max. It'll be fun seeing what the little Remington will do, after sitting idle for 15 years without anything to eat. I still have a couple boxes of original Remington rimfire, but hate to shoot them. The Schroeder conversion will allow the original rimfire head to be reinstalled if I ever get the urge to use the last of the factory stuff or, miracle of miracles, they start producing it again. However, I like the idea of reloading for the little round to achieve the flexibility that only reloading will provide. With more .20s becoming available, the flexibility should be increasing.
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Posted by: jim saubier
01/21/2002, 11:28:50
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if you have already gotten the 5mm dies and the bolt head conversion, I think that you are better off with what you have. And, if you look at the ballistic tables for the 33 grain v-max at 2500 fps, you'll be pleasantly surprised at the advantage over the .17HMR. You'll also be saving a bunch of money over trying to rebarrel the 591 and with that money you could buy a Marlin in .17HMR and have them both. The advantage that you have with the 591 converted to 5mm centerfire is the versatility of reloading.
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Posted by: Tony Schmid ® Tony Schmid
01/27/2002, 20:50:30
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The bore diameter of the 5mm is smaller than the .22. Don't you ruin that barrel, I'll buy the rifle. Contact me-----Thanks
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