Posted by: foxhunterbubba
03/03/2002, 03:36:33
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went to a gun show today and was presented with a delima .do i buy a ruger 17hmr which is there or do i spend another 200.00 and buy a brand new kimber of oregon 17k hornet. well i know what i did, what would you have done? dazed and confused
bob
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Posted by: Rich in VA ®
03/03/2002, 05:36:19
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without a doubt........... Rich in VA
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Posted by: Nailman
03/03/2002, 08:20:49
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Sell me the Kimber and you keep the Ruger....
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Posted by: Drifter
03/03/2002, 19:15:31
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Nice ! sounds like you did the same I would do. I am a big fan of not owning any more ruger rifles myselfe(sold all of them). although I do have a super redhawk that I like. so lets see some pics of the new rig, I'll bet its a sweety. see ya
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Posted by: foxhunterbubba
03/03/2002, 20:01:29
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DRIFTER, I HAVEN'T SAID WHAT I DID YET. THE QUESTION WAS WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO? I ALSO DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO PIC'S OR I WOULD. BOB
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Posted by: Greg Smith ®
03/03/2002, 20:12:33
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I would buy the Kimber. Very good price! What style stock does the rifle have?
Did it come with the little book written by Mike Hill? I sure
would like to know how it works out. Also want to thank you for
the .17 AH data you posted.
Thanks
greg
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Posted by: foxhunterbubba
03/04/2002, 00:33:44
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well guys now that i have your opinion i will tell you what i did. i bought the ruger no 1 s in 218 bee at the next table . i plan to chop the barrel back to 21-22 in. and put the sight back on it. bob
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Posted by: foxhunterbubba
03/04/2002, 18:49:11
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i forgot to mention i also bought the 17 k hornet.
bob
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Posted by: Rich in VA ®
03/04/2002, 19:47:53
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I'll trade you a Ruger Hornet for it straight up....... 
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Posted by: foxhunterbubba
03/05/2002, 00:34:36
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rich,
i have one 77 22 hornet w/sights one varmint cut to 20 in with a mcmillen stock one 77 22 hornet in 17 ah one 77 22 hornet w/shelin heavy barrel and mcmillen stock. hummmmmmmm
do i need another one? all have moyer triggers, i don't mind another hornet i just can't afford the trigger.bob
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Posted by: Rich in VA ®
03/03/2002, 05:46:33
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OK, now have my ryanite forearm for my Contender. Any tips on this? I assume the area that hits the frame should be relieved, but what about the barrel? I know Bullberry has a "fix" for all of this, but this isn't a Bullberry......... If I relieve the area at the frame, looks like that should "float" the barrel adequately. Am I looking at this correctly? Also, I hear pros and cons on the oversized pin. What's your opinion on this? Help or not? Thanks for your help. Rich in VA
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Posted by: D. Epperson ®
03/03/2002, 14:43:02
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A poster on another forum madethe claim that both of these bullets had essentially the same BC. I find it hard to believe and do not know of a site to readily look it up. Can anyone here confirm or disprove this claim?
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Posted by: nyle howsmom
03/03/2002, 18:48:35
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D. Epperson Useing my ballistics program and some data published in Guns & Ammo (March 2002),the.17cal (17gr v-max; BC=.125) and the .22cal (33gr v-max; BC=.137). Nyle Howsmon
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Posted by: brian m
03/03/2002, 19:17:14
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howdy folks! I have a BLR .223 that I'd REALLY like to make into a .17. Is there anyone who knows where to go to get the barrel work done? The bolt lugs right into the barrel. Any info out there?? Thanks for your time!!
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Posted by: Cleankill
03/03/2002, 20:36:47
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wondering where you guys are getting the best accuracy in seating for your 17 rem's? i want to try 20 gr vmax shooting out of a bullberry barrel
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Posted by: jim saubier
03/07/2002, 09:12:03
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I am not familiar with Fred's .17 Rem chambers but I would think that they are tailored towards a 25 grain bullet. If you are able to seat a 20 grain bullet, you may not have much bullet in the case. This is OK as long as the bullets are straight and don't get bumped to much. I would suggest that you would much better served using the 25 grain bullets and even the 30 grain bullets in this cartridge. It is a big case and works much better shooting the heavier bullets. I also understand that some folks like to shoot the smallest bullets in the biggest case to attain extreme velocities. What I usually do with the contenders and encores is seat the bullets so they just touch the lands or I back them off 10 thousandths. Jumping the bullets vs. seating them into the lands will not make much difference on paper. I would be surprised if you were able to measure the difference.
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Posted by: Cleankill
03/11/2002, 16:24:05
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i understand the smallest bullet, biggest case. i am not really looking for that, the 20 vmax were the only ones i could find locally. with the pill touching the lands, i actually have just under 1/3 of the pill in the case, so i am thinking fred's throats are on the short side. i will try a few at varying depth and see what i get. thanks for your input. andy
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Posted by: Jay Neeley
03/28/2002, 22:12:34
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I wrote Hornady and they told me that the 25g and 20g are the same length so what most load book have to O.A.L for the 25's can be used for the 20's.
J...
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Posted by: jim saubier
04/04/2002, 11:43:17
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Just barely touching the lands if you can reach that far with the 20's. IF you seat them too long, you will experience trouble when closing the encore/contender frame. I try to seat them to just touch or off of the lands about .010 thousandths to avoid any problems unloading a round - sticking a bullet in the lands is not desirable to me. As far as accuracy difference, it will be hard to measure any loss or gain in that small amount of difference. The main thing is to make sure that you have enough bullet in the case to keep it straight during handling. I try to keep a bullet diameter in the case which would be .17" in this case. You can get by with less if needed, that is just a rule of thumb that I use.
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Posted by: Dan C ®
03/03/2002, 23:42:59
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Just testing things out guys.........Thanks. Dan C 
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Posted by: Arizona Larry
03/04/2002, 01:08:04
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Hello Dan,
Excellent picture. What brand and model of digital camera are you using? I'm looking for a good digital camera, but don't know what to get that does not cost to much. Thanks
Also need your advise for .17PPC barrel twist. What do you recommend for the 25 to 30 gr. bullets. Thanks for your time, Larry
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Posted by: Jody Henkle ®
03/04/2002, 09:24:02
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Larry, If you go with a 1/9" twist with the PPC, you can use either the 25 or 30gr bullets, both will stablize. Actually mine even shoots the 20gr V-Max very well too... Neat cartridge!
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Posted by: Dan C ®
03/04/2002, 10:13:06
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Agree with Jody. The 10 twist *might* work, but why run on the ragged edge? Go with the 9. I just picked up this camera, an Olympus C3040. Still figuring it out. The Oly's come highly recommended by Pete Hauer, and he sure seems to know what he's talking about. This one was about $600, but they make good models for around $3-400. Dan C
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Posted by: Arizona Larry
03/04/2002, 20:15:35
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Thanks for the information Dan and Jody. I hope to sell an Unertl BV-20 scope soon to finance a new barrel for a Winchester M70. Larry
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Posted by: Matt Smith
03/04/2002, 11:34:17
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Hammetts have a nice hp,how do they work on pd's Dan?
Neat good by the way!
Regards
Matt
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Posted by: Dan C ®
03/04/2002, 12:24:13
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To be honest Matt, I haven't tried the Hammett's on prairie dogs because they don't shoot in any of my Coopers! I have 400 of the 25's and hope to burn them up in my CZ Mach IV. Dan C
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Posted by: Matt Smith
03/04/2002, 18:23:48
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Let me buy some and try em in the mach1v maybe.
Regards
Matt
PS want some 37 vld's for your collection picture?
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