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FOUND A NICE LOW VELOCITY MACH IV LOAD
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Posted by: usmcpanzer
03/25/2002, 13:02:29

 I went out and tried several load wieghts of Blue Dot this past weekend in my 17" Contender pistol chambered for 17 Mach IV. One load in particular worked out very well.

A 25 gr Hornady HP (Moly coated) over 5 gr of BD and a CCI-BR4 primer gave a velocity of 2050 fps. The standard deviation over the 5 shot string was 37 fps which is not too bad. OAL of the round was 1.795".

The great news came when I went down range and found that all 5 shots were in a .87 group! (3 of them were at .25) The day was windy with 15 mph gusts so I was very pleasantly surprised.

Should be a great rabbit or gray squirrel load if you don't want too much meat damage. Very very quite as well.

Semper Fi.


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Thinking of a 17 Ackley Hornet........
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Posted by: Cleankill
03/25/2002, 16:16:01

 but no nothing about this round. i have a 17 rem but it is over bore so want something more efficent but still got wackability. is this the round or should i look at something else.

thanks
andy


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17 hrm, got this on one of the lists I subscribe to
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Posted by: vmthtr in green bay ®
03/25/2002, 23:43:12
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Hi fellow shooters. There has been a lot of hoopla about the new 17 HRM so thought you might like to here about today. Well, we got about 3-4" of snow last night. It has been so dry out here all winter long, me and my partner in crime played hooky from work today he has a brand new Ruger 77/17 HRM. I didn't have anything loaded but some 6.5 JDJ 85 gr Sierra hp bombs so guess what got the call:-). Jerry and I had coffee at about 6 am, then headed out to the ranch to lower the yote population by a few. Arrived at about 7 am, man was it cold today high about 21 with a 10 mph wind from the north with gusts up to 15 mph over cast no sun at all good snow cover. The wind chill was 4/-5 all day. We stopped by the ranch house for more coffee and to check in with Jerry's brother and find out where the yotes was hanging out. Then we went over to the ranch dump down in a gully to check the sights, on both guns. The JDJ was dead on ! and the 17 HRM needed some tweak'n. I put two holes in a tomato soup can at 200yrds and Jerry and I shot up one box of the ammo he had, nice little gun that 77. We hit the Christmas tree grove(snow brake out here) slipped on the snow camo and got in place. I started to cut loose with dying rabbit call, within about 10 min we had an old yote dog within 150yrds he sat down on his butt looking right at us, Jerry asked how far he was so I laser ranged him at 142. I told Jerry take him so he did. That old dog jumped at the shot and started walking around in a circle, so Jerry popped him again and he ran about 20 yrds to the left, the 3rd shot came less than a sec later and the old yote wheeled started to light off the afterburner when my 6.5 JDJ barked he dropped like a rock fell on him. I looked over at Jerry and he looked like some body had just whacked him with bat. I asked him where he was shooting and he said the chest.! I jumped up and walked out to drag the old dog back in to the tree farm. We looked the old flee bag over and could not find a hole made by the the little 17gr HRM. He checked the sites on a white rock out about 125 yrds and I saw the dust fly so it was shooting ok. I laughed at Jerry for getting buck fever on a coyote, first time this year and all, new gun you know(VBG). We called for about 20 Min with no luck, and decided to head for the truck and warm up. I shot it, so I dragged it back. On the way back we jumped a bitch yote about 150 yrds from the trees and Jerry cut loose on her, she went down at the back legs then got up started to run at about a 45 deg angle away, 4 more little pills where sent her way with little or no real effect, the last shot is out about 200yards. I ran over to the fence post, took a good rest and dropped her with the 6.5 at about 250 yrds. We headed on back to the truck with the first flea bag then ! I left the 6.5 at the truck and headed over to get her. The whole time I'm thinking man what has happened to Jerry this winter, I know he can shoot better than that. I get to the bitch and she has a broken spine at the base of the neck, that 6.5 man, what a gun. I hooked on the drag line and head for the truck and some heat. I get there and Jerry has the skin about off the first one, I see these two red spots on the left side in the chest area and Jerry roles him over and there is small red area with a small hole near the breast bone. I look closer and the bullet blew up on the breast bone. We look at the side of the chest and another bullet splattered against a rib and the other bullet slipped between two ribs and tore up a silver dollar size piece of lung. We do the same to bitch and we find a shot to the hip area, no broken bones and a little hole in the lower chest with no real damage and one in the gut, the other two must have been misses. Jerry! hit were he was shooting but that 17gr bullet just don't have what it takes to do the job. Not on game this big. We whacked a few big jacks and they don't seem to be real impressed with this little hummer, they just seem to move a few hops and die after they are hit, none the bullets passed through the jacks. This gun may shoot one hole groups in calm wind but out in the real world it is sorely lacking. In a 14" contender at a lower velocity the bullets may hold together with better results, but I would not use this one on any thing bigger than a 13 stripe ground squirrel under 150 yrds. Jerry sure isn't happy with his new toy and I'm sure not impressed.
Good shooting
--- CH Perdue


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