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Gunzup 04-01-2019 05:40 PM

221 Fireball
 
New member here looking for load data for a Remington XP-100 pistol in 221 Fireball with a 10 3/4" barrel. Id like to shoot 40-50 grain bullets over CFE-black.

Thanks for any insight even if it is not for CFE-black. I have other powders but CFE-black is what I use in my 20 VT.

Jeff

20VarTarg 04-01-2019 06:13 PM

What kind of results are you having with the CFE BLK in the 20 VT? I've been thinking about giving it a try just for something to do? What's your start point with a 32 grain bullet?? I've been running CFE BLK in a 17 AH. The speed is there but not the accuracy. Now I gotta find something to use the rest of the pound of powder in. If I can get it to work in the 20 VT that would be awesome!

TinMan 04-01-2019 06:27 PM

Have had 221FB rifles since 1998. Preferred loads are 40gr and 45 gr bullets using RL-7 or AA2200. Usually use Rem7.5 or BR-4 primers and Remington brass.

Tim Anderson 04-01-2019 10:21 PM

In both my XP's I used H-335 and H-322 and shot the Rem. factory 50 gr. sp.'s

Gunzup 04-02-2019 04:05 AM

Thanks for the replies. Still doing load development in the VT. Started at 17.5 and loaded 19.0 under the 32 vmax tonight. No pressure signs yet and accuracy has improved with the speed. Shot the XP this afternoon with modest loads of CFE-B and H4198. CFE-B was the most accurate load so now looking for more speed.

20VarTarg 04-02-2019 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunzup (Post 280474)
Thanks for the replies. Still doing load development in the VT. Started at 17.5 and loaded 19.0 under the 32 vmax tonight. No pressure signs yet and accuracy has improved with the speed. Shot the XP this afternoon with modest loads of CFE-B and H4198. CFE-B was the most accurate load so now looking for more speed.

Thanks for giving me a starting point on the 20VT. Wish I could have helped you with your initial question.

Ricco1949 04-02-2019 03:18 PM

@20VarTarg

I've used CFE Blackout and 40 V-Max for 2-3 seasons of PD shooting with 20 VT.

18.0g yields 3400 with no signs of high pressure even at 90-100 degrees on the prairie.

Very accurate powder bullet combo in my rifle.... OCW target with loads in my album.

Only issue has been the very fine ball powder clings to the drop tube of the Dillon. I was shocked to recently find the tube ID coated with hardened powder. I had to use a bore brush to remove it. This was after loading only 4 pounds of powder or about 1500 rounds.

I'm going to polish the tube ID and ground the tube housing to try to eliminate the problem.

SmokinJoe 04-02-2019 03:38 PM

Ricco, get your drop tube clean then try pushing a piece of dryer sheet through a few times. If that doesn't get rid of static electricity problem, try working some powdered graphite through the measure with the drop tube installed. One of these methods usually works.

For loading 221FB I use 40 gr bullets with AA1680 & CCI400, but in the short barrel you might get better results (again with 40 gr bullets) using Lil'gun from 15 to 16 grs. With 50 gr bullets I would say RL-7, CFE BLK or AA2200 probably, but I have never loaded 50's in mine.

Ricco1949 04-02-2019 04:55 PM

Thanks Joe.

I'll try that after polishing the tube. I can see there are some rough spots in the tube. Silicone carbide on a patch spun in the tube should take them out.

TinMan 04-02-2019 06:24 PM

If you mean the powder funnel when you say the drop tube, I used a tapered reamer to smooth out the machining marks, and it drops even 172 calibers just fine with no bridging or sticking. I also do not leave powder in the measure when done loading. Using a dryer sheet to wipe the plastic cylinder does reduce the static cling does help a bunch.


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