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georgeld 01-22-2018 12:07 AM

RIP Sicero
 
Guys, I tried calling Kenny and Cathy's numbers tonight.
Both disconnected.

I just typed his name in the header: Kenny Pond/Medway, OH

Just as I figured. He passed away. Back on Nov. 30th, '17.
His obit came up to confirm it. Including his picture.
May he RIP.

I'd post it, but, no way I can figure something like that out.

Sure looks like this is going to be a bad year for losing folks already.

ray h 01-22-2018 12:16 AM

George I sure hope Kenny is ok.

Gary in Illinois 01-22-2018 12:17 AM

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it looks like you could be right, George -.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/nam...view=guestbook

My apologies to all if this is in error. I never met Kenny but did talk with him on the phone and he seemed like a good guy.

Bayou City Boy 01-22-2018 12:43 AM

Damn...!!! Just saw this............

-BCB

georgeld 01-22-2018 01:38 AM

I was privilaged to have Kenny as an over night guest at my place when he and Cathy came to CO two years ago.
He wanted to attend the stock making class at Trinidad's gun school.
Cathy bought the course for him as a gift. She went to spend the time with her dau in the NW part of CO.

After a few days he was down there. I drove down and looked him up in the class and we agreed to meet when it was
over that evening. I took him to dinner at a local BBQ joint after I visited my wife's grave the first time in 2 years.
Both times we had a great visit for a few hours. We shared several phone calls and e'mails since.

Mighty fine man, very troubled by a several years long battle with cancer.

PS: Gary, thank you for posting that link.

jdunham 01-22-2018 01:55 AM

Sorry to hear that, I always enjoyed his posts. Way too many of these type threads lately.

Bayou City Boy 01-22-2018 03:03 AM

As some of you probably remember, Kenny enjoyed machinist work as a hobby. A few years back when Hornady was having 17 HH brass issues, some of us had several very lengthy online discussions here about making it from 22 Hornet brass with 17 HH dies which was an option.

Out of the blue, Kenny PM'ed me here and offered to make me a 17 caliber neck sizing die to neck down 22 Hornet brass. He wasn't sure but he thought that he could make a die to do that, and he wanted to experiment..... We had several conversations here and on the phone about it, and I offered to pay him for his materials, at least. He would have none of it.

About 2 weeks later he sent me this very well made die shown in the picture below. I called him and thanked him after I received it, and in the process I asked if he still had my address. He affirmed that he didn't think so, so I sent him some money in any envelope with no return address on it. :) He immediately called me when the money arrived wanting my address so he could send the money back and I told him to take his wife out to dinner or something similar, which he agreed to do. :)

https://i.imgur.com/0GlccJvl.jpg

As you can see in the pic with the set screw visible, the die had an adjustable neck so that you can set the sizing depth on the case neck where you wanted it to be. The die works great..!!

I knew he was struggling this past year but I didn't know that he had passed. He will be missed. A true Saubier old timer from the late 1990's/early 2000's...........

Another old early Sauberite who hasn't posted in quite awhile is trotterlg. Does anyone know anything about Larry? I hope he's well..............

-BCB

RareBear 01-22-2018 03:03 AM

Sorry to hear of this.

Good detective work George.

johno 01-22-2018 07:26 AM

Sorry to hear this also, Kenny had some great posts just another member I would dearly liked to have met

RIP

Johno

kenbro 01-22-2018 09:42 AM

Kenny and me ‘mailed each other very occasionally...usually me asking his advice which he freely gave. He did send a me book across the Pond (Pun intended) and wouldn’t accept payment.
A true gent. Hope he’s resting in peace. Ken.

A few weeks ago i asked on Saubier if anyone had heard, or knew anything about member Joe O. Joe lived in South Carolina and ‘mails have gone unanswered since before Christmas.
Ken.
PS. BCB, nice die, where is Bellerophon?

17VLD 01-22-2018 11:04 AM

Sorry to hear this....
 
I was blessed to meet Kenny at the Saubier shoots ,am so glad I went.He was a very nice man.I hope his wife will be ok.
Matt

GLWenzl 01-22-2018 12:40 PM

I never met Kenny in person but he was one of my hero’s. I have some some of his CZ parts.

ray h 01-22-2018 01:05 PM

Sad to hear this news. Kenny was a very creative guy. Once I stopped by his place and he showed us the stock duplicator he had made from misc parts laying around. I always had a lot of respect for Kenny, RIP old friend.

Rick in Oregon 01-22-2018 01:15 PM

Dang, another great guy gone. Kenny was an accomplished machinist, made many sets of Cooper action screws for me and members here.

We are certainly diminished by his loss.

RIP Kenny, we'll all see you someday again.

Bill K 01-22-2018 01:50 PM

RIP Sicero
 
I also, never met Kenny, but did do some trading/selling with him. Always was easy too deal with. Prayers too the family, he will be missed by many. Bill K

Herb in Pa 01-22-2018 02:03 PM

I never met Kenny in person, but we exchanged PM's and phone calls, I will certainly miss him...........

csterner 01-22-2018 03:07 PM

https://s14.postimg.org/cul5dohtt/0702162017-01.jpg

Kenny (Sicero)

https://s14.postimg.org/dk3xq4xtt/1122161626-00.jpg

Georgeld (at 30 y.o.)

Hog Patrol 01-22-2018 03:42 PM

Never met him but could tell by his posts he was a good and generous man.
RIP

montdoug 01-22-2018 04:13 PM

In 2006 we had the "Second Annual Saubier.com P-Doggie Hunt". At that hunt it was my pleasure to meet Kenny and hunt with him.

https://i.imgur.com/6GAehqml.jpg

At one point I had Greg Tannel build me up a .20 VarTarg, with it I got the Delrin bore guide he makes to your chamber dimensions.

https://i.imgur.com/m2G10lHl.jpg

I posted a picture of it on the site and it caught Kenny's attention, in no time at all he was making them for himself and others. Very talented man. His wisdom and his knowledge will be missed.
Vaya Con-Dios Mi Amigo.

csterner 01-22-2018 04:25 PM

like in Stevo's post, I made this a sticky so it won't be lost for those who don't check in regularly. I'll move it to the tribute forum later.

ramos 01-22-2018 04:39 PM

Okay gents. That makes two (that we know of) mighty fine men that have gone on to greener pastures this Winter. Let's call it good for awhile and the rest of us just stick around for a bit.

Kenny made Cooper screws that are better than Cooper screws! Enjoyed his posts and the book that he sent me that was a collection of his brother's writings. His brother being local to me.

Kenny, God Bless you, man!

csterner 01-22-2018 05:03 PM

I second that Ramos...:(

Bayou City Boy 01-22-2018 05:39 PM

Thanks for the sticky, charlie.......

Kenny was indeed a talented man and a very good man..........

Kenbro..... I guess the bee had already stung......... :)

Not to beat the same drum again, but does anyone know anything about trotterlg (Larry Trotter)? Any idea where he was from? There doesn't seem to be anything in his profile to indicate where he lived.

-BCB

Jingle 01-22-2018 06:58 PM

Larry doesn't seem to be a hard guy to find, he is on a few sites on the net. Pretty smart fella.

17rimfire 01-22-2018 07:03 PM

Sorry to hear this... I never met Kenny in person but did talk over the phone and emails.. he helped me a lot with CZ parts and gave me a lot of information about how to do things with them.. he sent a bag of parts once and wouldn’t take any money for any of it, truly a generous man and I’ll miss his posts and wealth of knowledge. RIP you will be missed..

Bayou City Boy 01-22-2018 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coyotespotter (Post 265633)
A Larry Russell Trotter passed away Oct 31,2017. South Carolina.

I saw that yesterday but I have no idea if that is him, so I never posted anything about it. And I always thought that the lg in his user name trottrelg were his initials, but not certain of that either.

In my mind he lived somewhere in the western US.

-BCB

georgeld 01-23-2018 03:52 AM

Pictures posted by Charlie above
 
Believe you guys will recognize Kenny's. I took that when we were bsing the afternoon he got to my place. The other one is of me back when I was 30.

Thanks for posting them Charlie.

Coyote spotter: That's NOT Larry Trotter from here. Yes, Larry G. Trotter.
His main place is in Washington state. Seems like Puyallup sounds familiar. He spends winters in AZ somewhere. I sent him some take off barrels a couple years ago. Then needed one of 'em back. Sent it right to the barrel maker for me. Refused postage. Another great member we're blessed with here. There's months go by when I don't hear from him, but, we're not real penpals either.

When I built the NEF 17 VR and had problems getting it working he said to send him the barreled action. Fixed it up for me. Said it took a lot of hours tinkering but, only asked for about $30 and said: "don't send more".
Then even though it chambered and fired. Nearly every case split the shoulders. Paul Rogers was on here hard at the time and I sent it to him to ream the neck out. I very much miss Paul. Think he just got busy at work and dropped off.
Another one I don't see much of: Mark D, in Childress Tx. I bought the reamer from him.

Those stock blanks behind Kenny in that picture came from Mark Pinkston/kalua, he's in Portland, ORE, I think. Don't recall seeing him posting for quite awhile either. I know he's been fighting health problems several years too.
I just sent both Larry and Mark an e'mail asking them to let us know how they're doing.

Sure hope our "Lost Members List" hasn't grown more than we know about.
This year sure seems like the dying year already. 9 I know of have cashed in so far, two on the board we know of. *Note: Mikie: cousin's hubby west of you is one.

Thanks to everyone for their posts on these threads. I'm very sorry to bring such sad information to the front. Yet it's mighty important that we all know. Right?

Bayou City Boy 01-23-2018 04:09 AM

Thanks again, George......... Take care.

-BCB

VinJosh 01-23-2018 06:39 AM

So sad to hear of this. Godspeed, Kenny.

Gerald D. 01-23-2018 11:02 AM

God's Peace to his Family and Friends.

moorepower 01-23-2018 04:39 PM

RIP to another fine man. He always had advice to enquiring minds.

Eagle_view 01-24-2018 12:29 AM

So very sorry to hear and see this. We connected through this group and he was always more than willing to give well thought out advice.

Lowell

JINGWEED 01-24-2018 04:02 AM

The last
 
Its been a hard few weeks loosing our loved ones. My prayers and heart goes our to all familys and friens and I pray this will be the last for a long time to come. Please continue to pray for those grieving and may God comfort them.
Ralph Alt Jr

xring 04-21-2020 04:13 PM

Belated Condolences to Kennys Family . I bought a lot of very nice Parts from Kenny and I did not realize it was that long ago . He was a real Gentleman to deal with . I lost my Aunt recently and could not even have a regular Funeral . Makes one realize to treat our older Relatives with much respect and care while they are alive !


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