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greasemonkey

03-31-2019 02:32 PM

Norma 17 Remington brass

Picked up a nice CZ 527 varmint a month ago. Bought 100 pieces of Norma brass to load with. Does anyone know how much smaller the volume is on this brass vs Rem brass? Tried a couple of mid range loads and velocity was way high for the loads. 22 gr of Xbr 8208 was 4050, 23 of varget was 4100. These were with 25gr Hornady hp's seated .005" off the lands.

This is my first 17 so I'm not sure what to run in it. Should be a fun little shooter once I get it figured out

218bee

03-31-2019 02:43 PM

If I were you, I would follow the velocity max as a guide instead of the powder charge weight. Just my 2 cents.

coyotespotter

03-31-2019 02:44 PM

Never bad luck to have a 17 rem that runs fast. I would say the 8208 is unusual the varget seems ok. How is the accuracy, did you measure the web area before shooting any? I like fast 17's.

greasemonkey

03-31-2019 03:52 PM

Haven't shot it much yet for groups. Mother nature hasn't been cooperating lately. Maybe today as it's fairly calm here.

The 8208 surprised me also. First load I tried was 23gr and my chrono read 4275. Thought it was a error so tried again and then kept backing the charge down. Figured the brass capacity was coming into play...

Was going to try 414 as some on here like it. Most of the loads I've read won't fit in the case without running over the top.

greasemonkey

03-31-2019 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 218bee (Post 280417)

If I were you, I would follow the velocity max as a guide instead of the powder charge weight. Just my 2 cents.

This was my thoughts also. It takes pressure to make that much speed.

coyotespotter

03-31-2019 04:42 PM

Probably should confirm the velocity, bullet drop at 300, or at least a second chronograph. Velocity is not a reliable predictor of pressure.

x32030

03-31-2019 04:47 PM

.17 Rem. load

I have had good luck with 25-26.5 of AA2700 with both 25gr V-Max & Bergers.Both will shoot 1/4" @ 100 yds. DRT on big N. Indiana groundhogs.

B23	03-31-2019 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by greasemonkey (Post 280415)

Picked up a nice CZ 527 varmint a month ago. Bought 100 pieces of Norma brass to load with. Does anyone know how much smaller the volume is on this brass vs Rem brass? Tried a couple of mid range loads and velocity was way high for the loads. 22 gr of Xbr 8208 was 4050, 23 of varget was 4100. These were with 25gr Hornady bthp's seated .005" off the lands.

This is my first 17 so I'm not sure what to run in it. Should be a fun little shooter once I get it figured out

When you start getting that close to the lands with your bullets, it spikes up the pressure curve and can take a load that was safe with a shorter OAL and turn it into a hotter or even hot load when you start getting that close to touching.

Silverfox

03-31-2019 07:48 PM

My tests showed that the Nosler brass powder volume capacity was about 2.8% less than factory Remington .17 Rem brass. Do your own testing though and be safe.

.17 Longshot

03-31-2019 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by greasemonkey (Post 280415)

At one time I measured water capacity for fired cases out of my chamber. Id have to dig through some notes but I believe there was a 1.6 grain average difference between the Remington and Norma/Nosler brass, Norma/Nosler having the smaller capacity.

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