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dave19113 10-15-2020 12:20 AM

0.4 Grains What a Difference 22 Hornet
 
Was able to get out for some testing with my CZ 527 22 Hornet.


I ordered some Sierra Varminters 40 Gr # 1385, that I wanted to test.

Brass - PPU Virgin full length sized
Primer - CCI Small Pistol
1.725 oal 1/2 turn crimp - Lee crimp die
Lil Gun 12.6 and 13.0

100 yards

https://i.imgur.com/IRdysOl.jpg?1


The top load was 12.6, bottom is 13.0



Looks like I found a new go-to load



GLWenzl 10-15-2020 07:33 PM

Nice shooting and what a difference that made.

I read where so e say small 17&20 calibers are finicky but my limited experience is just opposite. And I’ve had my share of 22 hornets that finicky... Lilgun seems to always amaze me, I have a#1 in a 218 bee that grouped great windage-wise but horrible vertical stringing. Top end load of Lilgun brought in respectable groups but not as good as your group!

TinMan 10-15-2020 07:55 PM

No.1385 is a HP bullet with a thicker/tougher jacket and meant for high speed cartridges, like for 22-250 or Swift. They sometimes can ricochet on hard surfaces, so keep that in mind. If it works for your Hornet, so be it and enjoy.

20VarTarg 10-15-2020 10:47 PM

I've had the same experience with Lil Gun in a Hornet. It shot more like a shotgun under 13 grains, once above it started to come together. I would have to look but I think I settled at 13.0 or 13.1. Nice shooting for sure!!!!!

dungheap 10-15-2020 11:05 PM

.22 Hornet
 
Just a question: Did you jump from 12.6 to 13, or work up? Under the right circumstances, that big an increase in a tiny case could cause a lot of grief. Jus' sayin'

dave19113 10-16-2020 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TinMan (Post 292808)
No.1385 is a HP bullet with a thicker/tougher jacket and meant for high speed cartridges, like for 22-250 or Swift. They sometimes can ricochet on hard surfaces, so keep that in mind. If it works for your Hornet, so be it and enjoy.



Yes, I have looked at the velocities of this bullet and know its a bit velocity deficient for expansion in the hornet. I use the Varmint nightmare's 34 gr and 40 gr V max on animals.

I just wanted to try the bullet because I have read so much on accuracy potential

dave19113 10-16-2020 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dungheap (Post 292812)
Just a question: Did you jump from 12.6 to 13, or work up? Under the right circumstances, that big an increase in a tiny case could cause a lot of grief. Jus' sayin'


Yes, went from 12.6 to 13

I have run bullets of same weight and length before and kind of know the results I would get.

My go to 40 gr load is 13 grs under a 40 gr vmax with good results

dungheap 10-16-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dave19113 (Post 292814)
Yes, went from 12.6 to 13

I have run bullets of same weight and length before and kind of know the results I would get.

My go to 40 gr load is 13 grs under a 40 gr vmax with good results

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Having blown a rifle and losing an eye, perhaps I'm just overly cautious...

dave19113 10-18-2020 10:10 AM

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Having blown a rifle and losing an eye, perhaps I'm just overly cautious...

Duly noted, Sorry to hear about your mishap.

The 13 grs is hodgdons max for 40 gr bullets, and being that I have shot identical weight and length bullets I figured it is not an issue.

moorepower 01-25-2021 05:31 PM

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Having blown a rifle and losing an eye, perhaps I'm just overly cautious...

Even a full case of LilGun in a std Hornet is under 29K CUP. 4227 is 43K CUP for a max load. Small pistol primers still look great with a full case of LilGun and a 40 Vmax.


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