As an update I've been up to 18.5 grains of CFE-B in the FB without excessive pressure using 40 vmax. The best accuracy was at 18.0 so that looks like it will be my load. In the 20 VT I'm now up to 19.8 grains of CFE-B under the 32 vmax and only slightly flattened primers. I'm going to stop here and experiment with the over all length with the 32 vmax. The rifle and pistol both clean up easily with Bore-tech Carbon Out and patches.
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