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Old 05-15-2016, 05:26 PM
260Ackley 260Ackley is offline
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Default 221 fireball to 17 fireball

I have a bag of new 221 fireball remington brass on its way. I'm wondering if I have to neck turn and anneal after forming to 17 fireball? I have other brass to use but got this bag in an unexpected deal so trying to make the best out of it.
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Old 05-15-2016, 06:00 PM
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Just run it through the die and you should be good - do it all the time for 20VT and never annealed.
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Old 05-15-2016, 06:14 PM
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Going from 22 down to 17 in one step is alot, I would do it in 2. When you get one necked down to 17 load a bullet and measure what the neck dia is that will tell you if you need to turn or not.
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Old 05-15-2016, 06:16 PM
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I have a 20 vartarg die would it be good to run it in first the. Then to 17 fireball? Lube inside neck I assume between dies
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:05 PM
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Default necking 221 to 17 fb

Good advice above. I suspect that whether you need to neck turn depends on your 17FB chamber dimensions.
My 20VT chamber is .234", and I neck 221fb to 20vt and don't need to neck turn.
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:06 PM
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I am assuming your 17 Fireball is not a bushing die, you could probably run them through your 20VT but its gonna bump the shoulders back more than necessary. If I remember correctly a 20VT is 1.6 to the shoulder and fireball is longer.
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Old 05-18-2016, 04:17 AM
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Use a Redding Redding 17 Mach 1V form die #1
Then straight into your 17 Fireball full length die

For my rifle 20 VT there is no need to neck turn BUT I have to for the 17.
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