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Old 11-29-2020, 02:59 PM
Qaz Qaz is offline
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I saw a Fox Pro video last night that was interesting. They were in Montana, using decoy dogs and called in a wolf. There seemed to be something wrong in the video to me, but I won't go in to that. But the video did raise another question in my head.
Now that wolves are getting more wide spread and showing up places that haven't seen them in a century, did it change how you hunt? I predator hunt alone and the only problems I have ever had were two legged. But those that hunt out west and in the northern states where wolves are now more prevalent, have you change how you hunt? Have you changed the cartridge that you use, more careful with your dogs, started hunting with a partner, ect...

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Old 11-29-2020, 03:36 PM
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Wolfs don't worry me so much. I worry about mountian lions.
If you think you might call in a pack of wolfs, take a AR and get as many as you can.

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Old 11-29-2020, 03:52 PM
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Some of the Mtn. Lion hunters that use chase dogs have had dogs killed by wolves. The dogs get strung out chasing a lion and making a lot of noise in wolf territory and end up confronting a wolf pack. Doesn't end well for the dog.
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Old 11-29-2020, 03:56 PM
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I guess I am just too old and have hunting for years alone. Don't worry about the wolves showing up in my area, now that the F&W released some into the area and they are growing in numbers, also killing livestock and game animals.
I don't worry about bears or large cats either, have had them show up while still hunting or sitting in ground blinds waiting for deer or elk.
Just this year deer hunting had a very nice cinnamon colored bear walk up to within 15 feet of me, while trying to sneak my camera out of a pocket to get a shot, he spotted me and turned and lopped away. Did get a parting photo of him headed north, while I shot him, with the camera, in the south end.
I am more concerned with the newer hunters ( 2 legged) and their poor hunting/shooting skills than the animals in the wild. Bill K
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Old 11-29-2020, 04:58 PM
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I'm pretty certain that the possibility of wolves and mountain lions would not change anything that I've done for years as they have always been a possibility. Awareness of your surroundings has always been important to me when calling coyotes. Maybe the wolves not in the numbers that you might see today in some areas, but none the less they were always there in areas where I hunted and lived years ago.

In spite of internet myths, mountain lions are a very thin skinned light tissue animal that does not require a lot "extra killing". For years when running lions with dogs was a very popular way to hunt them, the favorite weapon of choice for the hunters was a 22 Magnum. Dogs mean the world to these hunters, and if they had felt that a mountain lion needed a lot more fire power, they would have used it to protect their hounds.

For the past few winters, I've used a 22-6MM instead of a 22-250 for my first choice for winter coyote outings as my "larger caliber" rifle. The only reason is that it shoots extremely flat in open country and I can raise the .224" bullet weight into the 65 grain area and still get the flat trajectory.

That said, without the 22-6mm, the only change I would make in the 22-250 if I was specifically hunting wolves would be to go from my usual coyote bullet being the 52 grain Sierra BTHP as my bullet of choice to an old fashioned" 55 Spitzer bullet that would at least in my mind give me a bit better penetration and a bit more reliable bullet expansion.

Wolves and lions are not dangerous big game animals that need high power rifles to kill them. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Situational awareness and not large caliber rifles that are not needed to kill wolves and lions will keep you perfectly safe.

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Old 11-29-2020, 07:47 PM
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Wolves and lions are not dangerous big game animals that need high power rifles to kill them. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Situational awareness and not large caliber rifles that are not needed to kill wolves and lions will keep you perfectly safe.

-BCB[/quote]

True BCB. Many wolves are killed in the far North with the likes of 222 Rem and even lesser cartridges.
And a whole bunch of cougars have been killed with 22lr, 22mag, bow and arrow, 30-30's, so a super duper mag spitfire is not needed. Just good shot placement.
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Old 11-29-2020, 08:32 PM
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I worry about " ole saucer paw" Griz more than all of them combined.
When you walk up on one in the dark and it lets you before it takes off and you have know idea its there well you gotta change your underwear.
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Old 11-30-2020, 06:44 PM
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For years when running lions with dogs was a very popular way to hunt them, the favorite weapon of choice for the hunters was a 22 Magnum. Dogs mean the world to these hunters, and if they had felt that a mountain lion needed a lot more fire power, they would have used it to protect their hounds.-BCB
You're spot-on there, Hal.

One of my friends here has used his Marlin 980 in .22 Magnum for many years on cats with his hounds. He told me "over 100 cats, why would I ever change?"



As has been mentioned, situational awareness is probably the most important aspect here.
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Old 11-30-2020, 07:15 PM
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Wolves don't bother me when hunting, except they make the moose be quiet and not call. Moose hunting becomes difficult if the wolves are running them every night as has been happening around the area I was guiding for a few years. I don't know if that's still going on or not.
I am somewhat concerned over the big cats but mostly grizzly's though.
Walked into a grizzly's living room while deer hunting with my daughter, some years back. I was packing my Ruger #1 in .218Bee with 50gr. TSX loaded. She was packing her .260. That made me feel a bit under gunned, so I no longer carry the .218Bee.
Nowadays, if I go hunting, I'm packing one of my 9.3x62's, or the .375 06/IMP. I do have a model 1886/71 .45/70 as well as an 1876 in .50/95. Either of those would be just fine, too.
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