221 fireball input please

[varmintfarmer]

221 fireball is there any advantage to 221fb over .223 in a rifle.I looked at a vary nice rifle today but just can't justify buying another caliber or am I missing something thanks for input.

[Bandmiller2]

Theirs no real advantage especially if your a handloader as you can duplicate the lesser fireball velocity.Unless of course you would like anouther rifle. Frank C.

[flashhole]

It takes less powder and you can make brass from 223. Super little cartridge.

[philip]

OR...............You could look at the .222 and use better brass and get more velocity to boot.......

[sicero]

You need a one on one with Doug in Montana.
He can help you understand why you need this rifle.
Is it a CZ or Remington classic? A couple hot numbers. Kenny

[varmintfarmer]

Remington VSSF 221 fireball

[Furhunter]

Great liitle cartridge, I have a pair of them.

For me it's got nothing to do with loading down a 223 or shooting a 222 to get more velocity or using better brass. For me it's owning a 221 and shooting a 221, plain and simple.

If we down loaded everything, or chose to shoot something else for more velocity...... There wouldn't be much of a need for this site.

[Groundhog Devastation]

Great little cartridge that is more alive today because of the improvements in powder and projectiles than when it was developed. Also a heckuva little case to build off of as evidenced by the 20 VarTarg and 17 Fireball! with todays powders I'm not sure it gives up a lot to the old GREAT 222Rem. is it up there with the 223? Maybe not in the upper limits of velocity achieved but accuracy will be there at a modest reduction to the 223 velocities. My thoughts on you getting the rifle, if it's a good deal and the model you are taking about (VSSF) is a good production model with the longer barrel, I'd say go for it and just have another great "little guy" in the gun safe. Do I still own one? No. Reason is I have entirely too many varminters here for the number of potential targets available and I do have the 17 version a 204 and 2 different 222Mags so it just didn't get shot enough to warrant keeping since there was something else I had my eyes on, and needed the cash for that little event! GHD

[georgeld]

Mostly it's one of a shooters desires to own another rifle.
Mine's a .20VT and turns over 3700fps w/32gr & 18.0 gr powder

[montdoug]

I'm with Furhunter, it is what it is and that's enough. I had an original XP100 and always thought, "this would sure be a neat round in a rifle". I was right . Mine is a CZ but I have a VSF Remington in .17 Fireball and sure like the rifle. Sounds like a great combo!
Be sure and take a run at loading AA1680 under a 40 grain V-Max, that combo'll make ya giggle .
Actually anything on a .221 case is a must have. A guy needs a .221 a .20 VarTarg and a .17 Fireball really, like Momma bear, Papa bear, and the little baby bear, what a nice family .