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Old 06-14-2018, 02:56 AM
ben lurkin ben lurkin is offline
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One of the best things my father did was get us out of there in the 70's.

And as far as three Californias? There us no way in hell the rest of us will let you have six Senators!
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Old 06-14-2018, 03:59 AM
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Even tho it will be on the ballot, for voting on, it can never work, even if it did in fact pass. Just too many hurdles and government red tape to finalize. Bill K
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:48 AM
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If I had to guess the same thing that happened here. They touted the same line here, what they failed to tout was that all the monies that were previously going to the schools was diverted and the lotto money took its place. So they did not lie, just hid the details from public comments. They did not hide it entirely since it is all in public record, but how many people really read the bills? Not too many (the House or Senate included)
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Old 06-14-2018, 02:06 PM
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( but how many people really read the bills?)

Just sign it. We'll read what's in it later.

Southern California gets it's water from the Sacramento Delta. Makes no difference if we want them to have it or not. They take it. Split the State?
NO MORE WATER.

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Old 06-15-2018, 09:15 PM
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I can not fathom living there
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:25 PM
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I can not fathom living there
You actually have to live there for a period to fully appreciate the freedom found in other states. The things most of us take for granted in the USA just do not exist in that police state.

Of all the places I've lived in my life, that place is the most restrictive, crowded place, with the worst traffic imaginable, the worst air quality and the rudest drivers I've ever encountered. I will not even go there any more to visit, as it's "no carry" there to boot.

Rant over, can you tell I'll never go back? (45 years gone!).

(Apologies to CA forum friends there. Someday you'll be free...... )
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:36 PM
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Amen to that Rick. Some day. But, for now, I sure am glad I live in the N.E. Corner.
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:36 PM
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I know Kalickfornastan gets big news stuff but here in Illinois we are not much better off...... Lottery, same deal, gun control, well just read about it, and taxes are getting nuts. The Speaker of the House has been in control forever and has built the true "machine" to favor his party. Even though the entire state outside of the Chicago, Peoria, Springfield, etc, areas is solid red, we are over taxed and under represented.....

I have a lot of friends that have retired to other more "friendly" states.
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:00 AM
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I know Kalickfornastan gets big news stuff but here in Illinois we are not much better off...... Lottery, same deal, gun control, well just read about it, and taxes are getting nuts. The Speaker of the House has been in control forever and has built the true "machine" to favor his party. Even though the entire state outside of the Chicago, Peoria, Springfield, etc, areas is solid red, we are over taxed and under represented.....

I have a lot of friends that have retired to other more "friendly" states.
My family ( In laws) just got back from a whirlwind tour of Chicago, Ingraham, Flora, Chester then on to Saint Louis to fly home. We were very surprised at the taxes for purchases, I think 12%, maybe in Chicago. My MIL loved Illinois, and visiting up to her 4th great grandfathers graves in Steeleville, 4th great uncle in Chester, and her 3rd GGFather whom she has his Civil war sword.

Yea, California has a ton of negatives for us Republican-outdoor folks, but ALL of my family live within 15 minutes of each other, which will keep me here to be buried.
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Old 06-16-2018, 02:47 AM
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Yea, California has a ton of negatives for us Republican-outdoor folks, but ALL of my family live within 15 minutes of each other, which will keep me here to be buried.[/quote]

Same with the wife & I, along with being too old now to move around, the three kids and family are all here also, so we will stick it out, for the time we have left and enjoy what we can, while we can. Bill K
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