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Old 03-19-2015, 10:18 PM
bumtownbutch bumtownbutch is offline
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Default 6mm-30 short

Ever considered the 6mm/225 Win? I checked C-H 4d Tool and Die website, and they list dies for the 6mm/30-30, 6mm-30-30 AI, and the 6mm/225 Win. Their prices are cheaper than what I saw on Midway.
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Old 03-19-2015, 10:22 PM
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Default 6mm / 30-30 Short

How about the old 6mm Donaldson Wasp? Dies and reamers should be fairly readily available as the cartridge was fairly popular at one time. Classic cartridge for a classic rifle! Vic

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Old 03-19-2015, 10:47 PM
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Default 30-30 case wildcats.....

6mm Seely Masker Wasp:
http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd6smwasp.jpg

Seely Masker used 30 American brass to make 219 Donaldson Wasp cases and then necked them up for his 6mm Seely Masker Wasp.
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Years ago, Dave Tooley (Tooley Custom Rifles) stocked Federal 30 American brass - 30/30 with small flash hole. It has been out of production for many years, but worth picking up if you run into it.
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Old 03-20-2015, 01:02 AM
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Daryl,

Do you have dies for your 30-30 short?

Could you send me a couple cases? I'll pay you for them. I'd like to see what they look like. I've got a blank die in 6mm that is looking to be bored out with a chamber reamer to 6mm/30-30 Short.

Would need to have Dave Manson cut me a reamer or simply use a 6BR reamer and then cut the rim on the lathe? I wonder if 30-30 brass would size down in a 6BR die? Gonna have to try this someday.

Could be a fun project!
Certainly I'll send you some cases.
PM me your address and I'll get them in the mail Saturday or Monday.
No - I don't have dies.
.421/2" is the head size for .30/30, usually vs. .469/70" for the BR case.
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Old 03-20-2015, 01:09 AM
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What about 219 Donaldson Wasp necked up to 6mm?
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:06 AM
Mike Casselton Mike Casselton is offline
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Default 6mm Wasp is what those cases sound like to me

Might be able to use PPC dies to resize them. Not completely sure though. Look up a reamer print or some case dimensions. I think like said earlier, EA Brown chambered for it.
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Old 03-20-2015, 10:36 AM
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Daryl,

PM sent....Thanks!

I have lots of 225 brass. I like the idea of another "classic" cartridge. Would like to find a piece of 6mmDW brass to look at.

Thanks for the idea!
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Old 03-20-2015, 10:39 PM
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6mm Donaldson Wasp it is! A perfect cartridge for what I want to do. Thanks for the suggestion.

Now I need to source a reamer and dies...............
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:26 PM
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I also have a 44 1/2 in 6mm-30/30 Improved. I have not cast the chamber but when I was making brass I had to trim to 1.930 in order to close the action so I have settled on 1.920 length. Brass loss was heavy when using 25-35 but I have had no problems when I switched over to 30-30 Hornady brass. I size it in a 250 Savage die first then a Hornady 6mm neck sizer. I turn the necks to clean them up but am not sure it is necessary. I have a 12 twist so have stayed with 85 grain bullets so far as this is going to be my deer rifle in the future. I am using load data from the 6mm/225 as that is virtually what it is from taking case measurements. I am still working up loads but IMR 4895 sure looks promising so far with the 85 grain Speer. Not being a standard wildcat God knows what reamer was used and I really don't know the best solution to a better sizing die. I use a Vickerman die for seating. Gotta love the 44 1/2's! My current project is trying to rechamber my 044 1/2 in 218 bee to a 22 Super Jet or something. Tom
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