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starting to plan for next project
It seems like almost everyone has a 17 AH, and I have some questions:
1. What is a reasonable expectation of accuracy and velocity with a 20 gr v-max. 2. What is a good barrel length? I am thinking 21-23 inches - too long? 3. How does n-120 work with the 20 gr v-max? I am already using this in another cartridge. 4. To neck turn or not? Does it affect accuracy enough to make it worthwhile? 5. what are my die options? 6. How well does using the seater without the stem and then the sizer work for forming brass? 7. I was thinking of headspacing off the shoulder rather than off the rim, and using a false shoulder when fireforming. has anyone tried this as opposed to headspacing on the rim? Has anyone tried both? I am sure there will be others down the line, I am just in pre-planning mode and I like to think things out ahead of time. Any and all answers appreciated. Drew |
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Drew, I do all my forming and loading for the AH with a double end die I made myself. 20gr vmax @ 2400 for blackbird work, fire forming and tree squirrel hunting. Kevin Weaver chambered a 17 Rem CZ barrel to AH for me and I couldn't be more pleased. Kenny
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Ackman save me lots of typing,,,,
and I would add that although I still use 1680,,,N 120 must be the perfect powder,,,,the one thing I remember is it is so CLEAN burning compared to 1680. It also gave the fastest velocity for the buddies here in the 17AH clan. I'm not sure why I'm not using it myself~!
When I read about this round 20 years or so ago, I remember reading about "pressure excursions",,and blown primers,,super expanded cases. It was text that had me thinking I'd better load powder granule by granule with tweezers if I wanted to keep my eyebrows from being blown off ---as Jack O'Conner used to say "POPPYCOCK!" This round is very even tempered and EASY to load for, shoot, clean,,,all that is involved. You can be stupid with it just like ANY other handloaded round and get problems, but I find it a puppy dog round that as I still say,,the "funnest round" I've had lots of years. The 17 Ackley Hornet is one of those rounds that everyone needs to have and try at least once! Still liking mine after, oh,,5 or 7 years I guess. Wish I had built one LONG BEFORE I finally did. Alan in GA |
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Fantastic Fun Cartridge!
Only question not answered was barrel length.
I have 20, 22, and 24 inch 17AH's. They all shoot good. The chamber volume is about as important as the length of the barrel. Although it is not meant as a "1000 yard" gun, but is very useable on even groundhogs out to 200 yards, there is some value in the longer barrel. But, since it usually is built up on a lighter action, it makes a fantastic light totin' piece, so the shorter barrel is warranted. My favorite has a 22 inch barrel. Alex |
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How about brass?
Does one or the other seem to be more consistent between Remington and Winchester?
Thanks, Drew |
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mine.......
always gets fed Winchester brass,,,,a few prefer Remington.
Mine has 22.5" of barrel. I leave it that long because we shoot out of Suburban windows while riding in the pastures. If I'm 'back left',,the driver in front of me likes the longer barrels!! |
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