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Old 01-04-2012, 11:32 PM
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Thanks for the warm welcome folks.
Don't want to be sailin' under a false flag.

I tell folks that when I was born, my folks were so poor, they couldn't afford a name, just initials.

I've been GW for most of my 60 years. In fact I may have been GWB longer than he, but I'm a lot less famous (and if the truth be known, a lot more conservative).

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Old 01-04-2012, 11:48 PM
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Welcome GWB, did your folks happen to name you after an aircraft carrier? Oh well just a thought, I love the cartridge line up, when I started playing this small caliber game I thought the swift was small, now that thing looks huge!! If you have the time I would like to know what you think of that 223AI I have been pondering the idea of building one.

It looks like you will fit right in around here.
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:39 AM
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Bob,

Before I attempt an answer, some bona fides first.

I'm a gun whore and IIRC have reloading dies for +/- 57 different chamberings between 17 AH and 458 Lott, eight of which are 22 cal. centerfires.

I am not a hot-rodder. For example, I like the 22 hornet for what it is. I don't try to turn it into a "swift".

I'm a low volume shooter.

If I can buy used, at attractive or even "cheap price" I do, before I build.

Sub inch groups at 100 yds. suit me just fine. Rifles usually shoot better than I do. Consequently I don't fret if my guns won't shoot 1 hole, 5 shot groups with my reloads.

I typically use low magnification scopes, call varmints in within 50 yds or so. Most of my shots are 200 yd. and under, consequently a 1/2 minute rifle tickles me pink.

So with that in mind, pardon me if I don't burden you with load data, velocity, and technical info and specs, others can do that much better than I.

When I decided to build a 223 AI, what I ended up with as detailed below was not my plan. I had planned on something along the lines of a Remington 700 LVSF. I was thinking of a "walking varminter". I thought an 8 twist, 22" light varmint contour barrel would work from grey fox to hogs (which we have an abundance of). I could load anything from 36 gr. Barnes VG's to 75 gr. Hornady HP's, or 45, 53, or 70 gr. Barnes or 60 gr. Nosler Partitions. Pop on a sling, jump on my ATV and ride. Take a pair of shooting stix, a stool, some calls and go for it.


There will be a lot of folk here and elsewhere that know a lot more than I do about rifles, actions, internal, external and terminal ballistics, bullets, powders, burn rates reloading etc. What is the mossy oak slogan, "its not a passion, it's an obsession. I can relate. I do this because it is a way of life.

Anyway,
If you ask me "should I build a ............, my answer will be most definitely, maybe.

Here is one I built..............

Being a junk man at heart, I am always pickin' through other folks used items. Can't help it.
I picked up this action about 10 years ago. Never done any thing with it. The price was right and ya never can tell!



Sako S491 action

A couple years later a fellow had a used Richards Microfit thumbhole stock for sale. Turns out it just happened to be glass bedded for a Sako S491 action. Couldn't resist.

Fast forward to earlier last year. I got the hankerin' for a small caliber chambering with a fast twist barrel. Turns out a friend had a 1 in 8" twist Shilen Select Match stainless barrel layin' around his shop. Even had a 223 AI reamer and a Vais brake
Well, a few dollars traded hands, I pulled out an old scope I'd basically gotten free from another deal and tossed them into a feed barrel and rolled it down a hill at the lease. When I pulled the lid, dang if a Spare Parts Rifle didn't pop out.



Sako S491 action, Richards laminate thumbhole stock. Twenty-six inch Shilen Select Match Barrel, Vais Brake, chambered for 223 AI, Burris 8 x 32 Signature Scope.

Hadn't wrung it out but here are a few of the groups that I fired on the first run.





I'd include more groups, but the mod sez I'm limited to 4 pix, and I wouldn't want to bore ya'll to much.


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Old 01-05-2012, 02:00 AM
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Welcome GWB, glad to have you...I like the way you roll!

Nice Sako...

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Old 01-05-2012, 03:20 AM
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geedubya,

I haven't been around much lately. So I'll just say howdy. You do have a good collection of small caliber cartridges.
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Old 01-05-2012, 04:38 AM
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Nice to see ya over here. Been reading your bs on A/R for yrs.
Feel like I half know you by now. Hang around here awhile &
they'll change your mind about a lotta things.
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Old 01-05-2012, 05:00 AM
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I saw your handle. Perhaps I'm mistaken but I don't think I've seen your posts over there in a while.
Not much interest in small cals. over at AR.
Time tells all tales.
Perhaps I'll fit in here if my bs don't get too thin.

Anyway, best to you and yours in the coming new year.

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Old 01-05-2012, 06:19 AM
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GWB:
Didn't you read the pig oysters on pg 1 that's been on going
for a couple or three weeks now? Figured you'd gotten in on that one too.
I'm trying to read up on the old pages, back to 14 tonight. Keeps me awake
& off the porno sites.
Take care, reading one of yours right now in fact.
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Old 01-05-2012, 12:34 PM
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Bob,

Before I attempt an answer, some bona fides first.

I'm a gun whore and IIRC have reloading dies for +/- 57 different chamberings between 17 AH and 458 Lott, eight of which are 22 cal. centerfires.

I am not a hot-rodder. For example, I like the 22 hornet for what it is. I don't try to turn it into a "swift".

I'm a low volume shooter.

If I can buy used, at attractive or even "cheap price" I do, before I build.

Sub inch groups at 100 yds. suit me just fine. Rifles usually shoot better than I do. Consequently I don't fret if my guns won't shoot 1 hole, 5 shot groups with my reloads.

I typically use low magnification scopes, call varmints in within 50 yds or so. Most of my shots are 200 yd. and under, consequently a 1/2 minute rifle tickles me pink.

So with that in mind, pardon me if I don't burden you with load data, velocity, and technical info and specs, others can do that much better than I.

When I decided to build a 223 AI, what I ended up with as detailed below was not my plan. I had planned on something along the lines of a Remington 700 LVSF. I was thinking of a "walking varminter". I thought an 8 twist, 22" light varmint contour barrel would work from grey fox to hogs (which we have an abundance of). I could load anything from 36 gr. Barnes VG's to 75 gr. Hornady HP's, or 45, 53, or 70 gr. Barnes or 60 gr. Nosler Partitions. Pop on a sling, jump on my ATV and ride. Take a pair of shooting stix, a stool, some calls and go for it.


There will be a lot of folk here and elsewhere that know a lot more than I do about rifles, actions, internal, external and terminal ballistics, bullets, powders, burn rates reloading etc. What is the mossy oak slogan, "its not a passion, it's an obsession. I can relate. I do this because it is a way of life.

Anyway,
If you ask me "should I build a ............, my answer will be most definitely, maybe.

Here is one I built..............

Being a junk man at heart, I am always pickin' through other folks used items. Can't help it.
I picked up this action about 10 years ago. Never done any thing with it. The price was right and ya never can tell!



Sako S491 action

A couple years later a fellow had a used Richards Microfit thumbhole stock for sale. Turns out it just happened to be glass bedded for a Sako S491 action. Couldn't resist.

Fast forward to earlier last year. I got the hankerin' for a small caliber chambering with a fast twist barrel. Turns out a friend had a 1 in 8" twist Shilen Select Match stainless barrel layin' around his shop. Even had a 223 AI reamer and a Vais brake
Well, a few dollars traded hands, I pulled out an old scope I'd basically gotten free from another deal and tossed them into a feed barrel and rolled it down a hill at the lease. When I pulled the lid, dang if a Spare Parts Rifle didn't pop out.



Sako S491 action, Richards laminate thumbhole stock. Twenty-six inch Shilen Select Match Barrel, Vais Brake, chambered for 223 AI, Burris 8 x 32 Signature Scope.

Hadn't wrung it out but here are a few of the groups that I fired on the first run.





I'd include more groups, but the mod sez I'm limited to 4 pix, and I wouldn't want to bore ya'll to much.


GWB
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:21 PM
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Mac,

AR = Accurate Reloading.


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