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Old 01-31-2012, 02:01 PM
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Default 17 Rem from 204 Ruger brass

Hi, I have read up a lot about this subject including several of Silverfox's excellent posts. I see that several people recommend the nr 1 form die, then the trim die, then FL sizer etc. I saw a post on youtube by Ammosmith where he sizes a 30-06 case to 250 Savage with a 250 Savage FL sizer in small increments( about 20?)
I was wondering, is this a more viable way to make 17 rem brass? What about a 17 Rem body die to bump the 204 Ruger shoulder a little and then 17 Rem FL sizer in small increments, trim near to spec and deburr and then FL size with expander / trim again and anneal as last stage.
I am completely green at this so am grateful for any help or advice.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:06 PM
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You could try here for more info:
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/ind...opic=3737080.0

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Old 01-31-2012, 03:28 PM
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221Fb Fl die, 17M4 #1 Form die, trim, 17Rem Fl die, neck turn, ADam
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:54 PM
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Try just putting one in a 17 Remington FL size die and pulling the handle down. You may be surprised how it works out. Larry
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:05 PM
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Try just putting one in a 17 Remington FL size die and pulling the handle down. You may be surprised how it works out. Larry
Larry,
I tried this in the past with some Federal 204 brass but it creased the shoulders, anything you are leaving out we should know about?

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Old 01-31-2012, 09:26 PM
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I did mine, with much success, using a 222 rem FL die, no guts to move the shoulder back to where I wanted it. Then necked it down the rest of the way using a custom bushing die, for another rifle, finally the 17rem FL die. I would anneal before you use the 17Rem FL die, make sure you lube the insides of the necks too.

I expanded mine back up with the K&M 17 expandiron, then turned the necks so they were all the same...the last batch of 204 brass, wasn't very consistent in the neck thickness.

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Old 02-01-2012, 01:26 AM
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Toby--one GREAT BIG CAVEAT before you start putting powder in your .17 Remington casings that you have formed from .204 Ruger casings REMEMBER the amount of powder these newly formed casings will hold is a bit less than a factory .17 Remington casing. Therefore, make sure you DO NOT start load testing with anywhere near the maximum listed load for a .17 Remington.

With just about every bullet I have tried in my Predator action .17 Remington using casings that I formed .17 Rem casings from WW .204 Ruger brass, I get near maximum velocity with loads that are right down near the load listed as the starting load

Keep us posted on how this goes for you if you decide to form casings from .204 Ruger brass. Heck, I even formed a few .17 Remington casings from .222 Remington Magnum brass, but that isn't something I'd recommend since the WW .204 Ruger brass is much better quality and easier to form to .17 Remington than the .222 Rem Mag brass.
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:50 AM
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I hate to sound carefree, or even worse ignorant......but I run cases incrementally into a 17 rem seater die, full length size and then trim to length.......works pretty well and yeilds very acceptable results.....ymmv....
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:13 AM
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I hate to sound carefree, or even worse ignorant......but I run cases incrementally into a 17 rem seater die, full length size and then trim to length.......works pretty well and yeilds very acceptable results.....ymmv....
I'll go you one better, can't you fellas buy 17 Rem brass? SX
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:25 AM
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In short, yes. When you buy it, it has a lip on the case that is a PITA to get rid of and consistency pretty well sucks.

I made some from 204 Ruger and it shot waaaay better and cost less than 1/2 the price of 17 Remington.

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