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Old 06-29-2020, 01:59 PM
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Wonder what Navajo Nation would do with Dakota/Nesika, that part of the company is now performing the Remington Custom Shop duties. Lots of potential for getting back to quality products instead of just selling popcorn. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out.
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Old 06-29-2020, 03:08 PM
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I believe they also own the Miller single action, it would be good if someone brought it back out.
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Old 06-29-2020, 03:58 PM
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It is too easy to file bankruptcy today and besides the employees, it is you and I that ultimately get hurt because we all pay for the bad decisions those individuals and companies make.

It makes me really angry as a fiscally responsible person to see people go out and buy all the toys they know they cannot afford and then one blip in the economy, they are out of work, file bankruptcy and start the cycle over again. Companies do the same thing.
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Old 06-29-2020, 04:06 PM
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There is significant evidence, including lots of words from precision gun smiths, that today's CNC produced Model 700 actions are the best that Remington has ever turned out. A need for "Blueprinting" of Model 700 actions is becoming an extinct shop process versus 10-20 years ago.

That said, I wonder how successful the Navajo Nation would be if they buy Remington and go back to producing ADL, BDL, and Varmint Special rifles with a quality similar to those of a past era, along with some similar synthetic models of good quality rifles to satisfy the buyers wanting synthetic stocks, and quit trying to compete with other Bic lighter style rifles at a low price point.

Get back to basics and quit trying to produce something for everyone. It hasn't worked since Remington went down that road years ago.

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Old 06-29-2020, 05:51 PM
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To Rayh: Miller is part of Dakota and those rifles are still available as far as I know. They are probably all special order since they are a pricey item.

As BCB said, there have been quite a number of shooters who think the recent actions are top notch. I think it is the barrel quality holding the Remington rifles back.
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:03 PM
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Joe they have a mod 10 but I thought when Miller left the organization they stopped making the Miller action. I handled them at the Shot Show years ago. Always wanted one but they were always above my pay grade. They were outstanding designed actions.
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:35 PM
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To Rayh: Miller is part of Dakota and those rifles are still available as far as I know. They are probably all special order since they are a pricey item.

As BCB said, there have been quite a number of shooters who think the recent actions are top notch. I think it is the barrel quality holding the Remington rifles back.
Without a doubt, the current barrels are hit and miss in terms of quality. My definition of a "quality rifle" as I used it above includes a good action mated to a good barrel in a good stock that a consumer can rely on as being consistently good. Remington of recent years has not been able to make all three on a consistent basis as they try to offer a fat catalog full of sub-normal products to please everyone, and they have failed poorly at trying to do that with the resulting poor quality overall.

Due to the recent past, a Walker trigger by definition can't be part of the equation.

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Old 07-02-2020, 05:22 PM
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i now own ONE remington. its their model 7 in 7-08 that i bought in the early 1990s, actually i bought two and gave one to my youngest son. the 18 1/2" barrel is great for brush thicket for deer.

i was a remmy man. i luved the m700, esp the bdl. but time has changed and so am i. remington has changed too, twice.

my new(or shall i say old) reason for being is the old mauser and krag actions. i do love them.
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:48 PM
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Remington has been bought and sold several times, all by investment bankers. They had no interest in the company or products, only it's ability to generate money, or break off pieces to sell at a profit. They left NY to get rid of the unions and their high wage rates, then some bad product choices that their traditional market users didn't want.
This would be interesting if you had any idea what you were talking about.
Cerberus was not investment bankers, but a private equity firm with a pretty good track record, actually ran the business rather responsibly. People like VP Dan Quale and a former Secy of Treasury on the board. The current majority owners are Franklin-Templeton and J P Morgan.
They, did nor, in fact, leave NY but expanded South, largely because of toxic NY politics and great incentives offered in South that NY thumbed their nose at.
ALL the gun business is hurting after the best gun salesman in the galaxy left the white house.
The primary, repeat primary, reason for the filing has been the crushing legal costs resulting from some of the unfortunate mass shootings.
Learn some facts before you put up some of this trash.....I have zero affiliation with Rem and spent 40+ years in investment/finance.

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Old 07-04-2020, 12:08 AM
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I was thinking of CD&R, before Cerberus bought it. Sorry if you were offended.
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