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Old 09-03-2017, 07:05 PM
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Default 20 Vartarg brass making?

Lapua 221FB brass...

Lube it with imperial sizing wax and just run it into the 20 vartarg die with a 231-233 bushing?

One pass its made?
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Old 09-03-2017, 08:03 PM
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One pass in a "full length" die will get you what you need. Not sure if you'll get a full length size neck using bushings. Only partial? Someone using a bushing die will know for sure.
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Old 09-03-2017, 08:27 PM
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One pass in a "full length" die will get you what you need. Not sure if you'll get a full length size neck using bushings. Only partial? Someone using a bushing die will know for sure.

Thats my thoughts too. Thats why I am asking.
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:58 PM
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Pardon my ignorance but is a .20 Vartarg a huge improvement over a .221 Fireball? How much better is it?
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Old 09-03-2017, 10:20 PM
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Pardon my ignorance but is a .20 Vartarg a huge improvement over a .221 Fireball? How much better is it?
A improvement depends. If you want a fine shooting 20 caliber that is great for varmint shooting upwards of 400 yards plus, that is accurate, very little recoil, longer barrel life, then yes.
Now if you want to stay with 224 caliber, then no. The Fireball is one fine shooting 224 caliber, in it's own right. Bill K
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:00 AM
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After I full length size. I neck size. And load. It's that simple
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Old 09-04-2017, 01:39 AM
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Default 20 VarTarg brass making ??

With new brass, run the 221 FB into a FL sizing die, check for length, load and fire form. After than just neck size with a bushing die. The 20VT is so simple and easy to reload and shoot. Bill K
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Old 09-04-2017, 04:02 AM
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I think it's better to use 221 brass than 17 FB brass.
I got 500 of each and made 20 VT from them.
No problems, but, sure looks like the 17's neck is mighty thin.
I didn't split a one of either so assume no problem.
I haven't been able to get out and shoot many. Maybe 30 developing loads
over the chronograph is all.

Imperial sizing wax IS the one to use though.
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Old 09-04-2017, 04:49 AM
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I think it's better to use 221 brass than 17 FB brass.
I got 500 of each and made 20 VT from them.
No problems, but, sure looks like the 17's neck is mighty thin.
I didn't split a one of either so assume no problem.
I haven't been able to get out and shoot many. Maybe 30 developing loads
over the chronograph is all.

Imperial sizing wax IS the one to use though.
Have fun
My chamber is a lapua brass no neck turn. So lapua 221FB is the only choice anyways. Plus.. I can use lapua brass, thank god they started making the 221FB.. Ive held out on this project for years and finally just getting to it.. I try to only build calibers I can use lapua brass for, most of the time...
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Old 09-04-2017, 05:16 AM
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A improvement depends. If you want a fine shooting 20 caliber that is great for varmint shooting upwards of 400 yards plus, that is accurate, very little recoil, longer barrel life, then yes.
Now if you want to stay with 224 caliber, then no. The Fireball is one fine shooting 224 caliber, in it's own right. Bill K
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