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Good old Peter Paul Mauser apparently knew what he was doing. The action has been around for a long time, and it's been copied a few times over the years. In his writings, he was especially proud of perfecting the internal magazine with the 98 action. All in all, "he done good". I need to make better use of my day today than just running around in circles. I'm getting dizzy........ -BCB
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The bottom line is that nobody has figured out a way for a bolt action, push feed repeater to function reliably with rimmed cartridges. The Mauser controlled round system works, and can be made to work reliably with rimmed cartridges. The rimfire twin extractor system also works and can be made to work reliably with rimmed cartridges. To the best of my knowledge there has never been a push feed bolt action repeater developed that has functioned reliably with rimmed cartridges. |
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788? Sold alright. Use a Sako/M16 extractor if you want more strength.
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I could, and should, have bought an Anschutz or Walther. I finally got a CZ 527 and since then have found the cartridge to be everything I wanted it to be and more. |
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This is a 788 bolt head for a rimmed cartridge It is stripped, but you can see that it takes an extractor that is very similar to the extractor on a 580 series rimfire action that grabs the rim of the cartridge as it strips it from the magazine. This is a 580 series bolt head The 591 uses a hybrid bolt head that has features of the 788 extractor setup This is a rimless 788 bolt face. It will not work with rimmed cartridges. Last edited by JDHasty; 06-02-2022 at 03:41 PM. |
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How do the makers of actions (vs complete rifles) do market wise? Just make two size actions. One like the Remington rear locking RF and another size of a L46. Want a finished rifle, we have a custom shop. Get in line.
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Short of rimfires I think we the small caliber small case capacity shooters are but a blip on the radar in the overall shooting/guns/ammo world so what we would like, unfortunately, has little meaning to the powers to be.
BUT, instead of trying to get a manufacture to make something that works with the rimmed Hornet case maybe it would be easier if they just developed a new cartridge, something in the middle between the Hornet and Fireball case, that was not of a rimmed design so it would easily feed/function in a push feed action. Not that it will ever happen but I'd love to see something with a case capacity around 20gr H20, none rimmed case design, decent brass, shooting the 24gr Hornady NTX bullet. I think something like that could easily push those 24gr bullets in the 3800fps range. I'm pretty heavily invested in the 17 Hornet but I'd jump on something like that quicker than a rat on a Cheeto. |
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5.7 Johnson/17 Pee Wee
I was looking at the Pee Wee, but bought the Garin Strikesystem equivalent from another member here. I am going to drop off two of my 580 actions with a guy who has threaded a bunch of 541s for local small bore silhouette shooters and does a lot of work for bench rest shooters. I have decided to make up one into a 17 Garin and a second one into a 20 Garin. These will be single shot rifles, but I use a Calhoon single shot adapter in my CZ 527 rifles as often as I use a magazine in them. I would think this could easily be made up as a rimmed cartridge for single shots as well by forming the brass from 327 Federal cases. Last edited by JDHasty; 06-02-2022 at 04:05 PM. |
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Something like a 20 cal. Johnson/Spitfire but commercially available and supported by one of the big manufactures. Hornady seems to do the best job of developing new cartridges then promoting and supporting them so they'd be my vote for a new venture like that.
Unfortunately everyone is so busy cranking out mainstream cartridge ammo something new in the small caliber world is likely the furthest thing from their mind. |
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