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George someone (bowfinger) I think sent me a 17vha case and I compared it to the the 17x28 you have and your case is slightly larger in capacity.
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Don't have a 17 VHA any longer George. But you could also google up dimensions of the two cartridges and compare measurement. The 17 VHA is a necked down 4.6x30 H&K case. Bill K
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Bob:
After Cooper "Fixed" this rifle and didn't use the cases I made up for them to reset the barrel nothing fit. I had KW rechamber both rifles to fit exactly the same. So my version of the case no longer matters now. As they're the same. Whether they'd match yours or others I have no idea. After blowing the NEF up that time I've backed down to 9.5gr AA1680. That's plenty and gives a bit of slack. I'd bought a jug of this powder on my trip to your place. Oct '18 Jack brought me another can full. I'd bet there's around 14-15 lbs of 1680 in there. I've wondered if that would be enough to burn the barrels out with. would be fun trying. Bill: IF that's the only difference it wouldn't matter as I neck 'em down to .17 anyway. I have a couple thousand of those cases not touched. And likely 4-5000 of the 5.7's, many are resized and never loaded. I do have a 30 cal ammo can of loaded shells for it though. Have you ever seen such a can full of tiny shells? There's a hell of a lot of 'em in there, take that from me. HA! Worst thing is, I haven't fired more than ten in the past ten years. Too much "life" getting in the way.
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get some trigger time
17vha, George, you gotta get out and use that 17VHA more, it is the cats whiskers when pushing any old 20gr to 25gr in a 9" tw. You are correct, don't push it. A case full of h4198 under a 17gr is a very soft load, it is basically like following the same old rule for loading the 17 Ack Hornet using H4198 and a 25 gr bullet. Stuff it full scrape off the excess of H4198 and seat a 25gr in the 17HH or 17Ack Horn, and you have a easy to assemble and accurate load.
Using Trailboss would be a great idea fll and load a bullet that simple, never would it get overpowered with Trailboss. It is a great low energy powder. I wish I had some. I am still working through my first 1lb of HS 700-X and have a long way to go. |
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I don't have a VHA both mine are .17VR's.
A cooper I got from foxhunter and the NEF I built up before getting it. I use AA1680 for them, 9.5gr and 20gr V'max. I'd never ever fill a case and strike it off for a load. Especially those tiny cases. I learned that lesson in the NEF: blew it up with 10.2gr H110 i think it was. AND it was quite a bit less than full.
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I was thinking about pulling the trigger on that new Ruger 5.7 Ray H mentioned on the first page. Prior to that I was thinking about the 5.7 excell arms makes but it’s pretty big a clunky.
I really enjoy shooting my RIA TCM a lot... not sure why I think I need the 5.7. Ruger seems to have stepped up to make this 5.7 using unconventional or ease new technology ideas.
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Nice computer renderings of the cartridges, Rarebear.
Years ago when I was a young Sauberite and I bought my first 20 Tactical in 1999-2000, there used to be a guy from the Houston area who was a Saubier regular who did the same auto cad, or whatever, computer renderings for the then available small caliber cartridges to allow someone to be able to see and compare. Mike and his wife got heavily into bow hunting and he simply faded into compute oblivion........ Mike J. was/is a great guy...... -BCB
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What is the parent brass for 17VHA?
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20 tcm
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