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I would hope that some day CZ will make a 527 in WSM!
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It's been a couple years but I've talked to CZ a few different times about the possibility of them doing a 17 WSM and they basically told me, not in this lifetime, but, you never know things sometimes change and you can always hope. Just to be clear, I don't think the 17 WSM ammo is any worse than the other rimfire ammo on the market because I'd say, except for match 22LR ammo, all other rimfire ammo is about on par with each other. Yes, some Lot #'s shoot better than others, but none of it, except for the match 22LR stuff, is what I would consider great. |
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I did some more research and it looks like the challenges around converting a CZ Rimfire (452, 453, 455) from 17HMR to 17WSM would include:
1. 17HMR Magazine is not long enough for 17WSM, and the magazine width might also be inadequate for larger diameter 17WSM case. 2. Re-cut the bolt face for larger diameter 17WSM case will shift the location of impact of the "rimfire" firing pin...moving it more toward middle of case. The diameter of the 17WSM is .333" whereas 17HMR is .286" ...so shift of .025" toward the center. Although most rimfires strike too far out on the rim of case, and re-profiling the firing pin so that it lease a small outside portion not compressed does improve ignition reliability and accuracy, I think this is more of a fer thousands of an inch....this shift might be too large. |
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Converting a CZ rimfire to WSM would be silly, when the 527 is available in .17 Hornet. Nothing more needs to be said about it.
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Agree - that is the general consensus.
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Naked lead, then jacketed soft-nose bullets, reigned supreme for predator hunters wanting performance and success. Then we took the lead out. Why?
https://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/pr...m_medium=email I thought there would be more on lead free bullets but its an interesting article. |
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I own two different Ruger 77/17 17WSM rifles and both are perfectly capable accuracy-wise of easily taking a bobcat at 150 yards, which is about as far away as I'll typically see one unless you catch a stupid one out in the open. That doesn't happen very often in my AO. I’ve never shot a bobcat with a 17 WSM, but it might be a good tool for doing just that.
One of my 17 WSM rifles is the original Ruger 17 17 WSM 24" barreled walnut stock and blue sporter weight rifle, and the other is the later production stainless and laminate stock rifle with the heavier 18.5" barrel. Or I suppose I could use a 17 Hornet as some recommend for a bit more distance if needed............... Again, I’ve never shot a bobcat with one but it should work too. I can attest to the fact that if you hit a bone anywhere on a bobcat, any bullet likely might help you increase your puzzle solving and sewing techniques. A 17 Remington bullet hitting bone (including rib bones) can cause major damage. No bones hit and damage is minimal most of the time -BCB
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17HH on Raccoons
I have a terrible coon problem and use the 17HH for the majority of my 40 yd shots. Most have to be head shots in order to allow the eyes to find them instead of the nose. One particular incident involved what was supposed to be a heart shot using a reload closely duplicating factory ammo. The next AM I found blood, tissue and bone fragments but since it had rained the blood trail was lost. Two nights later the same coon was back sans a right front leg. Examination of the carcass showed very little injury to the core body of the coon. The front leg bones took almost 100% of the damage.
Yes, coons are tough critters and body shots are now made with a 223. I never would have believed the 17HH 20gr bullet could be stopped by a front leg of a 25# coon. |
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If you have to shoot rim fire the 22 Mag with 40 or the 50gr Fed does s better job! That's the problem with the light high speed sub cal bulllets they don't have enough A$$ behind them! Especially at close ranges!
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