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Old 07-06-2018, 02:35 AM
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1. use a limbsaver recoil pad

or

2. take off the recoil pad. drill a hole in the stock. put pure lead into the hole. put on recoil pad.
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:17 AM
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I had a brake on a 220 swift: basically zero recoil. Very loud though. If you shoot prone then you want a brake without ports pointing down because they'll kick up dirt and dust.

For high volume shooting, suppressors are really nice.
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:23 AM
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I'm not sure what a Limbsaver recoil pad will do extra to allow a light recoiling 20 caliber rifle to remain steady.....? Maybe I'm missing something......

In addition, since the days of the Remington 700 LVSF rifles, I've not had a Limbsaver recoil pad that didn't go gummy after just limited use. Pads on a new 17 Rem and a new 221 FB, and a used 223 Rem all turned gummy within a year of purchase. Remington replaced all of them with new LVSF stocks as the original Limbsavers were glued on, even though they were actually very easy to remove from the stocks.

About a month ago as I was telling a friend about the extremely nice wood that came with a 2004 Friends of NRA Model 700 CDL walnut/matte blued rifle chambered in 204 Ruger. I took the rifle out of the original paper wrapping in the original box to find that the Limbsaver recoil pad on it too had turned gummy. Remington replaced it with a Super Cell recoil pad after a phone call which is butt-ugly in my eyes with "Remington" in large letters plastered on both sides of the pad. Instead of putting it on the stock, I bought a black solid Pachmayer Decelerator pad and had it fitted to the stock for a much nicer overall image.

As for the OP's question, I've never had trouble seeing PD's launch completely out of the scope on various 17 ad 20 caliber rifles that I own, including bullet impact, so I myself would not go with a noise maker to improve that element for me. The limiting factor for me in seeing the red mist is when the PD actually flies beyond the field of view for the scope being used. A muzzle break won't do anything to improve that.

JMO on the muzzle break issue...........

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Old 07-06-2018, 07:30 AM
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I would try a compensator rather than a brake. they are a little milder on the blast yet still give notable recoil reduction with the smaller cartridges at least. I know there more "tacticool" but ones like the battle comp are quite effective.

You know you can have your cake and eat it too right... it's called a suppressor

ETA: just found this gem and the price is right https://www.midwayusa.com/product/93...ad-ar-15-matte Other manufactures would call this a compensator fyi.
+1 on the sound moderator. Sometimes helps with group size and definitely reduces recoil/muzzle flip.
Does nothing for looks though.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:33 AM
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Thumbs up I put a Vais muzzle brake.....

......on my 20BR. I was shooting 50LTB's at 3950fps, and the 40VMax at 4150fps.

BTW.....I use GOOD earplugs, AND GOOD electronic earmuffs.

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Old 07-06-2018, 01:43 PM
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Good advice for a thread like this, Kevin. One would hope that anyone who is shooting anything would use good ear plugs and good electronic muffs at all times. Even when hunting.


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Old 07-06-2018, 02:43 PM
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Hi,

I have all three- non threaded barrel, suppressor, and muzzle brake. For high volume shooting I prefer no brake, no suppressor, and would look into making the rifle heavier as an option.

Suppressors get hot. Brakes get dirty.

For non high volume shooting brakes and suppressors are great.

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Old 07-07-2018, 04:17 AM
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I have used a Harrell's on a 22-250 shooting 60's and a Vais on a 6-XC shooting 87's. Both controlled the muzzle enough to see POI in PD town.

I use plugs and muffs together for noise reduction.

However I start to get a dull headache before 100 rounds from the concussion. Ceased using the brakes because of it.

I'd increase the weight of the forearm and the buttstock.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:59 PM
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" I start to get a dull headache before 100 rounds from the concussion "

Know the feeling. Got an AR with a welded on brake to make the barrel length legal. When it goes BANG, it feels like someone just punched you in the nose! Not fun at all so it doesn't get fired much.
Think about adding weight to dampen the recoil. 15# to 18# and a straight pipe does the trick. Not fun for packing but the shooting and seeing your hits is .
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Old 07-07-2018, 01:20 PM
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Mikie, try shooting a 20" HBAR. Much more pleasant than a XM177. Even a 16" M4 is more pleasant.
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