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Old 05-27-2019, 02:29 AM
drewh drewh is offline
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So I have been itching for a 20 TCM since I saw the cases for the first time, and have been bugging NorCalMikie about his since he let out he was working on one. Mine is on a Wasatch Precision single shot action with a Pac-Nor 3 groove 7 twist barrel.

The first time I had it out I loaded some test loads with CFE-BLK and it shot just ok and there was soot on the shoulders so I annealed the brass and loaded up some more loads with CFE-BLK and 24gr NTX bullets, got up to 13.4 grains whci gave velocities near 3300 avg, but still over inch groups. I was at a friends house and ended up using his press so I have to play around with the dies to get similar settings without having to reset them again when I got home. I had already cased up the rifle, but decided to load up 3 each of 2 different loads of N120 and LT-30 and was pleasantly surprised. The reason for the vertical you can see in the Chrono numbers, the horizontal is from fighting the wind. The CFE BLK may need more neck tension or it may be sensitive to the capacity changes of the cases as well. At this point I will take accuracy over velocity and will stick to testing N120 ant LT-30.The bottom right group is .508 outside dimensions so I am pretty happy.






when I got home I weight sorted the remaining unfired formed cases into .5 grain lots, and will use the 65 cases in the 73.1-73.5 group to test again hoping to cut down any capacity difference

there is a significant variance :



going to do these thing in retests to try and improve:
  • compare pistol vs rifle primers
  • use my chargemaster to measure the loads
  • use the weight sorted brass
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Old 05-27-2019, 12:20 PM
Nor Cal Mikie Nor Cal Mikie is offline
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Love to see a picture that Wasatch Precision single shot rifle. Nothing like that on their site. They show a killer 10/22 for $700.00 +.
Never paid that much attention to FPS. A 5 shot group @ 100 yards that I could cover with a dime ALWAYS brings a smile to my face.
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Old 05-27-2019, 12:46 PM
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Never paid that much attention to FPS. A 5 shot group @ 100 yards that I could cover with a dime ALWAYS brings a smile to my face.[/quote]

I am with you on that Mikie.. Accuracy trumps FPS every time. Bill K
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Old 05-27-2019, 06:40 PM
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I will get a picture of the rifle up later. As you might imagine trying to take a rifle outdoors to take pictures in an apartment complex in the communist territory of CA might cause an uproar.
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:53 PM
Nor Cal Mikie Nor Cal Mikie is offline
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Did somebody say GUN???
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Old 05-29-2019, 01:14 PM
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I really can't address the .20 TCM because I don't have one, BUT -- in the .22 TCM the only powder I could get to really shine was LilGun, and the accuracy node with everything I tried, including LilGun, was tiny. Jus' sayin'.
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:09 PM
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I will get a picture of the rifle up later. As you might imagine trying to take a rifle outdoors to take pictures in an apartment complex in the communist territory of CA might cause an uproar.
It must be a "sniper" rifle Might be more scary than an AR
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:14 PM
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Just saying the word "RIFLE" makes everybody freak out.
Like nobody has guns in your neighborhood?
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