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Old 05-22-2010, 12:08 AM
Travis C Travis C is offline
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I'm thinking really hard about building a full custom prarie dog rifle to shoot 350-600 yards. I love my .223s and thinking of building one really accurate rifle in the same caliber. I love all calibers based on the .223 size case head, and realize that a 6mmbr might be a little better for my applications but I want to see your guns.
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Old 05-22-2010, 12:19 AM
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For those distances I like a little heavier cartridge, and bullet. But not too big. I had a 22-250 built on a reworked Remington 700 action. Barrel is a 1in8 Krieger. And I had it set up for the 75 grain A-Max bullet. IMO the 22 caliber 75 grain bullet is better than the smaller 243 bullets. Strictly because of ballistic coefficient. I realize the larger 6mm bullets have a decent BC. But I do not want to go to a 100 grain bullet for varminting. IMO the 100 grain bullet for varminting is just to much. You even start feeling the recoil with those bullets.

I went with the heavy contour Krieger barrel at 28" of length. This stabilizes the rifle very well. With proper technique I can see my hits without a muzzle brake. But if you are really concerned then a MB would really tame the rifle.

I added a Manners TH stock. Overall a pretty nice varmint rig for shots out to 800 yards without much trouble. It will shoot farther, but I am not very good at it. Actually once you get past 700 yards you are past my best shooting. Tom.

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Old 05-22-2010, 04:22 AM
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My long range prairie dog rig is a Rem700 chambered in 6mm-284Win shooting an 87gr V-Max. Mine has a Leupold 6.5-20x40mm scope with Kelby rings and bases on it.
I love the rifle but after shooting it for a while, I think I could have achieved the same with a 243 with a moderate to fast twist barrel and got longer barrel life.

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Old 05-22-2010, 02:22 PM
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I have been very surprised at the difference in the amount of heat that is generated by different calibers. One day I had both my 700V's at the range. One in .222 Rem and the other in 22/250. My buddies had 700V's in .308. After shooting a bit the .308's were quite hot, too hot for my liking. The 22/250 was nearly as hot and I set it aside. The .222 was barely warm. I was comfortable to keep shooting it. If it were me, I would stay with a caliber similar to your .223. I think the barrel will potentially last longer and it may be more consistently accurate, assuming it can perform the task at 600yds. I have never shot a critter @ 600. My old 722 in .244 (6mm Rem) shoots great when cool but goes awry when hot. Good luck, Peter.
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:13 PM
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This being a small caliber web site and what with me being a small caliber junky, you might well imagine my favorite long range rifle is a small caliber. It's a .20 Dasher in fact. It's built on a 40XBR Remington, Gre'Tan Rifles threw the kitchen sink at. It shoots far better than I do.
In this oft re-posted picture is of it's first trip rock chuck hunting, it's first chuck (which was also it's first shot at a live critter period) was just a few feet shy of 500 yards.



It's a rocket ship!



To put it in perspective ballistically I'll compare it to a big bore, my .22-250.
My .22-250 load shoots a 55 grain V-Max at 3,650ish FPS.
At the 600 yard distance that was mentioned using a 250 yard zero my ballistic program shows the .22-250 dropping 49.62 inches and being deflected by a 10 mile per cross wind 35.05 inches.
The .20 Dasher at the same range drops 34.09 inches and is deflected by the same 10 MPH wind 26.35 inches. That's 15.53 inches less drop and 8.7 inches less wind drift. That also explains my small caliber affliction, sort of (there's really no explaining addictions).

As to the non small calibers, this might not look like a custom rifle but it is a fully massaged 788 Remington in 6X47 Lapua with a 1 in 12 twist Krieger on it for 55 to 80 grain bullets. It also shoots far better than I and is a holy terror on varmints. It too is all over the .22-250 ballistically but the .20 Dasher still has a serious ballistic advantage in everything but energy over it. Sure not bashing .22-250's by the way, always had one and always will. Just using it as a comparison cause almost everyone's familiar with it.
With another thread from the other day in mind, "throw the kitchen sink at it" and "fully massaged", means single pointed action, double sleeved and bushed bolt etc. etc.



Last but not least is another long range rat smacker, a fully re-worked Cooper in .17 Tactical. This one is on a .223 case but that's where the similarities stop. I haven't had a chance for load development due to weather and a new AR but soon!



That's more than enough outta me.
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Old 05-22-2010, 07:26 PM
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My main varmint rifle. Switch barrel BAT SV.



Lilja barrels (.20 VT, .20 TAC, . 17 TAC, .223 AI)

Mac stock, Jewell, Leupold MK4.

Second is a RPA Quadlite in .243 AI

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Old 05-23-2010, 01:07 AM
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This is my 20BR Kevin Weaver did for me. Rem 700, br action job, 1-11 Pac-Nor barrel, #8 straight taper, Boyds TH stock, pillar beded and a Zeiss 6.5 X 20 scope.



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Old 05-23-2010, 02:46 AM
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I can't hit anything past 500 so I'ts a moot point , but here's my Gopher Guns.

Both are 700's with Pac-Nor barrels.
Top one's a plain vanilla 17Rem with a 24", nine twist, three grove, #5 contour bedded in one of Darel Hollands excellent stocks, shooting 25gr V-046 Nagels and N140 at 3950. This is the most accurate rifle/load combo I've ever owned..
Bottom's a 22BR (my long range big bore) with a 24", fourteen twist, four grove, Sendero contour in a HS PSS stock, shooting 52gr SMK's and Benchmark..... Have to check my notes, but I think they're running about 3400, and scary accurate...

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Adam,,,,,, I can see it fine but I deleted it and entered it again.
Can ya see it now?

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Old 05-23-2010, 03:01 AM
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Pete can' t see the Pic, Adam.
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:31 AM
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Hmmmm... 223 Remington long range digger doers you say? Here's a couple of mine (I used them for the much smaller Belding Ground squirrels).


XP-100 223 Rem wears a custom Douglas barrel, Burris 10X Target scope and Myrtlewood stock with Holly spacers & Rosewood caps.


Remington 700 VS 223 Rem with a 2 ounce target trigger, bench rest follower and Leupold 6.5-20X50 Long Range Target Scope.
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