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Old 03-25-2021, 03:45 AM
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Default Staball 6.5 in 17 rem?

Has anyone tried the Winchester Staball 6.5 powder in their 17 remington? They show some crazy fast velocity's and I was wondering if they're true?... 30 grain bullet max load showing 3904 fps. 25 grain max is showing 4138 fps. Of course I know work up to that but has anyone given it a try?
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Old 03-25-2021, 04:57 AM
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Sounds like it might be worth trying some. Hodgdon data appears to show well filled cases.
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Old 03-27-2021, 12:21 AM
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It just so happens that I have a 17 Remington rifle, some 30 gr. Berger bullets, and a couple pounds of Stayball6.5 powder. I'll load some up and head to the range when the Oregon weather cooperates to permit the chronograph seeing those tiny pills.
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Old 03-27-2021, 01:41 AM
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Awesome! I'll stay tuned in!
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Old 03-27-2021, 04:52 AM
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.......ditto
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Old 04-01-2021, 02:27 AM
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Well I got hold of a couple lbs of Staball 6.5 and loaded some up with my 30 gr nagel's. Worked my way up to a full load with no psi signs and out of 3 loads my junky chrony gave me 1 reading at 3830fps. I've got a new chronograph on the way and I'll be giving it another shot, but I'd be pretty happy with 3800+fps on a 30 grain bullet out of my 17 remington. Johnly I hope you'll still see what you get out of it. I'm wouldn't hang my hat on what my chrony said.
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Old 04-01-2021, 01:04 PM
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My next purchase(when I can find some) will be some staball, want to try it in the 17,22-250 and it should work in my 30-06. Seems like a good powder to have on hand,especially since H414 is discontinued. I get 3900-3950 with 29gr bullets out of my 26" 17 rem with 414, wondering if the staball can keep up.
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Old 04-01-2021, 04:21 PM
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Took my M700 Classic in 17 Remington to the range yesterday with a variety of handloads, including 27.0 of Stayball pushing a 30 gr. Berger Match. The range conditions were horrible for shooting 17s, a full value crosswind that was variable and no wind flags (because I forgot them at home).

I shot a couple nice groups, but more than one was a wind tossed horizontal string across the target. The light was poor, so I didn't even bring the chronograph to the range. The best group of the day was a sub-1/2" group delivered by 24.0 of Varget pushing a 25 gr. Hammett BTHP. For the most part the groups indicated the rifle was showing that it is a 3/4 MOA shooter under good conditions.

For the 30 grain test groups the loads were:
22.0 Varget, that shot poorly
26.5 H414, about was between 3/4" and 1"
27.0 Stayball, that had similar accuracy to the H414 load.

This rifle has a trait of moving the POI upward as the velocity increases.
Without having chronograph data, I still believe that the Stayball load was faster than the H414 load just based on the POI change. Hopefully someome can provide some real data.

I was using neck sized R-P brass for this testing, and had no problem loading 27.0 gr. of Stayball into the case before seating the bullet.
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Old 04-01-2021, 04:53 PM
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Are you seating those 30's wayyyyy out there? Even with ball powder I'm surprised you can get 27gr in a 17 Rem case. Is it a compressed load?
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Old 04-01-2021, 06:00 PM
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I run 26.7-.8 H414, used to run 27 with 25 gr bullets. Never have had problems getting 27 gr of ball powder in the Remington brass. I can't fit 27 in LC 556 brass formed to 17 rem, but don't need as much to get to velocity node.
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