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Old 04-02-2018, 01:30 AM
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Default H4895 in a .222

How many here have tried H4895 in the .222? I am not giving up H4198, but with H4895 running almost 8kpsi less for only 150fps less, I have to wonder how many more shots I could get before warming up the barrel. Does anyone have practical experience? If it’s not accurate I will axe the idea, but I have a pile of 50 sx bullets, that don’t care if they go 3000 or 3160.
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Old 04-02-2018, 01:50 AM
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Some years ago, about 35 I guess, about 1980; I was in a gunshop talking to the owner at the time about accuracy in the 222 remington.

He goes in the back of his shop and brings out a custom rifle built by Moe Reynolds south of Dallas. A heavy, short (20 inch) stainless barrel on a 40x, in a laminated stock. The trigger was a Green electic, once set, just had to think about it.

The gunshop owner let me borrow the rifle to try out, along with 20 tight neck cases and Wilson hand dies............he told me to buy some 4895 to use with some mysterious bullets in a plain box, custom of course.

So I loaded up 20 and went to the range. The first five shot group was under a 1/4 inch. Really messed me up, things changed for me. Having shot a 22/250 Remington Varmint Special for years, it was just out classed in the basic accuracy department. Got on the benchrest circuit in the Gulf Region, had two fine rifles built up for competition(one was a 222 variant, other was a PPC) and burned myself out with the travel. Twas worth it, learned more in those years than all the years previously; those rifles and smiths are just something else.

Old memories, fond ones they are. But the powder of the day back then in the 222 was the 4895, a lot of guys used 4198 as well; but I think I recall that the 4895 was more volume in the case. One gives up a bit of speed, but the accuracy will be there with all other stuff equal in my opinion.

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Old 04-02-2018, 01:53 AM
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Default H4895 in a 222

I would never recommend, in this day and age doing this, but back in the 50' to early 60's about four of us, bought 222 Rem and since we read how some just dipped the case, filling it to the bottom of the neck and seating a 50 grain Sierra bullet, we did just that and it worked great, with good accuracy and it was fast and quick. And we could by lbs of it cheap on surplus market.
Worked for us with thousands of rounds fired. so I know 4895 will work in the 222R, however I would not do as we did, back then. Use a loading manual and follow safer procedures.. Bill K
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Old 04-02-2018, 02:37 AM
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Thanks! The max load is compressed and at that only a little over 36kpsi.
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Old 04-02-2018, 09:59 AM
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4895 was developed as an accuracy powder and I use it exclusively in my 223. If I owned a 222 would use it in that as well.
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Old 04-03-2018, 11:03 PM
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Read an article a while back and 4895 was what Mike Walker liked.
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:34 PM
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I have tried H-4895 in a couple of 222 handguns and rifles, and while accurate, velocity falls a couple hundred fps. behind what I am doing with H-322...

I shoot nothing but Hornady's 50 gr. SX bullets in my 222 Remingtons, and H-322 is hands down their preferred powder of choice...
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Old 04-05-2018, 03:33 PM
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I have tried H-4895 in a couple of 222 handguns and rifles, and while accurate, velocity falls a couple hundred fps. behind what I am doing with H-322...

I shoot nothing but Hornady's 50 gr. SX bullets in my 222 Remingtons, and H-322 is hands down their preferred powder of choice...
It's also 7kpsi less pressure, compared to the H322 I normally use 20.5 grains of H4198, max load, and very accurate. I am just looking at/ hoping to find a load that possibly gives me a few more shot's in a dogtown before my barrel warms up. I would assume that the lower pressure would = less heat, more shooting.
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Old 04-05-2018, 04:12 PM
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You are correct - less pressure and lower velocity would keep your barrel cooler a little longer, which would allow for more rounds to be fired before the barrel starts to heat up...
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