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Old 08-08-2015, 05:38 PM
bridgeport bridgeport is offline
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One use that I am experimenting with now is using CFE as "cleanup". I will shoot a string of my normal loads, then run 5 loaded with CFE quickly just to see if it will erase any copper fouling, run a couple of wets and a dry through, then return to my normal loads, and in this respect, it does show promise as a "field expedient" method to remove copper fouling IF you are having problems with it.
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Old 08-08-2015, 10:06 PM
Larry in VA Larry in VA is offline
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So what is it about these new CFE and other "copper cleaners" that enable them to do this?
Anyone have an idea?

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I have a pound of the stuff and purchased it specifically for use in my AR rifles. Does anyone know if it is any cleaner in the carrier bolt group area, where the fired gases comes back to operate the bolt?
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Old 08-08-2015, 10:49 PM
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It has something like " Tin oxide" or such in it, which supposedly with the heat and friction aids in removing or stopping copper wash from building. Not really new, but a marketing thing for them. I believe it was Winchester ie. 748 and others have had copper reducing additives for years. But it does seem to work or help. Someone with the full or really correct info may chime in. Bill K
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:13 PM
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'CFE' is strictly marketing, been around for decades in St Mark's powders, and others as well.

If you see bismuth and tin compounds in the MSDS it has anti-copper properties whether it is marketed that way or not. I believe potassium compounds also have the same properties.
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