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Old 03-08-2021, 01:12 PM
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George, I think those 30gr. Vmax were actually 35gr. I have never heard of 30gr. Vmax & their site still lists only 35gr. as the lightest.
Barnes, though, has a 30gr. non-lead core bullet, however.
I found the 35gr. Vamx's to shoot amazingly well at 100 yards, under 1/2" but past 150yards they opened up horrifically & went into 2 1/2" to 3" at 200 from the bench.
It's possible that he got seconds, because they have/had a 30 Vmax for the .22 magnum.
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Old 03-08-2021, 05:15 PM
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George, I think those 30gr. Vmax were actually 35gr. I have never heard of 30gr. Vmax & their site still lists only 35gr. as the lightest.
Barnes, though, has a 30gr. non-lead core bullet, however.
I found the 35gr. Vamx's to shoot amazingly well at 100 yards, under 1/2" but past 150yards they opened up horrifically & went into 2 1/2" to 3" at 200 from the bench.
Your experience matches mines trying to use the 35 grain in the 22H and 221 FB. They also weren't much faster than the 40 grain Hornady?Sierras or 36 grain Barnes VG so the lousy shape wasn't worth it. Ended up using them in subsonic Trail Boss loads and they worked very well for that.
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Old 03-08-2021, 05:29 PM
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Agree about the 35gr VMAX. I tried some in factory loaded ammo, and the ballistic coefficient was so low, that shooting them in any kind of wind was useless, about like shooting a 22lr in the wind. 40gr VMAX are much better, and are very useful in Hornet, 221FB and 223 Remington.
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Old 03-08-2021, 06:56 PM
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It's possible that he got seconds, because they have/had a 30 Vmax for the .22 magnum.
The 30gr. Vmax used in Rem & Winchester .22WMR ammo was designed for that rim fire. I don't think it has ever been sold as a component. Maybe it has, down in your local.

Seconds? Maybe - in the States. We don't get those up here or if we do, it's a rare event.
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Old 03-08-2021, 08:03 PM
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Yes seconds. Midway has had it a few times I think. local gun shops have got some over runs or seconds. As stated the B.C. of both and are close to a brick. Western Powder lists CIP loads for a 30 grain VG a in a .223 at 4345fps. If at all accurate, it would make for a nice show for short range shots.

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Old 03-08-2021, 08:06 PM
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The 35 grain Nosler I mentioned and use, is their Ballistic Tipped Varmint lead free. Shoots very good and I kill critters all the way to 400 plus with it.
Some allowance is used if wind is present.
Works great on ground squirrels and rock chucks and even on called coyotes, now that I must use lead free.
Use it in my various 224's. 223 to 224 Valkarie.

Hornady's NTX 35 grn works very well in the 221 Fireball also. Doe a good job in the other 224's and often also out to 3-400 yrds.

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Old 03-09-2021, 02:51 AM
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What I got were NOT blems.

I bought a box of 250 from midway.

No idea the price now.

As for accuracy at 200 yards or more it was about equal to

throwing bricks would be! 50 yards impact from one shot to the next

might be giving them too much credit!
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