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Old 05-11-2014, 08:35 PM
Chickenthief Chickenthief is offline
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Default What will it cost to start making 172 bullets?

The bare minimum to make 20 and 25 grains 172 bullets!

I can make a lead wire extruder, cutter and "sizer", no problem. Maybe a little but i have lots of time and few $$$ so i will try and test until it works.

What i need are jackets (.45-.5" long?) for 20-25gr bullets and a forming die.

I know i know i know, go to corbins, but their price list is clear as mud and almost gave me a nosebleed trying to figure out what i needed. And they dont list 17 cal jackets.

25gr Hornady V-MAX costs me $29US/100 + shipping (min. $8½US from Germany).
I will be "working" for myself and a mate but might consider selling if it pans out ok.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:56 PM
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Why not 30 grain bullets as there is a lack of them in .172?

Or maybe soft points or something with an expanding nature oppose to fragmentation.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:24 PM
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One of the very best die makers frequent here, George Ulrich.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:49 PM
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Or maybe soft points or something with an expanding nature oppose to fragmentation.
TOTALLY... anything to save my fingers pulling hundreds of 20gr XTP controlled expansion bullets from loaded 17 HMR rounds
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Old 05-12-2014, 12:33 AM
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I'm game for anything as long as i can overcome the startup cost and break even at some distant point.
My only "real" recourse is time.

So all you smart guys how do i make controlled expansion bullets?
Are they "different" from filling a lump of lead in a jacket then form a point on it?

I have looked some at corbins www and as far as i can see a bare min startup is @ $650, is that about it? But under .224 it is custom charge wich is what?

Then i need another $250 forming die every time i change bullet shape?

The only way to "loose" money faster than this is starting my own NASCAR team!
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:02 PM
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carbide dies will cost you about 2x what Corbin quoted. and you need a quality press, then you need jackets. Length is dependant on weight desired.

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Old 05-12-2014, 09:40 PM
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Talk with George Ulrich.
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:17 PM
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Minimum you need the press to handle it and be accurate enough, you can convert a good solid cast iron press for this provided you have the capability or have a local machine shop do it or buy one. Jackets can be bought or drawn from .22 cal jackets I would buy them from J4 rather than Corbins.com. Lead is lead so long as it is pure or close to it. The wire extrude, cutter, and core size dies are as you noted rather easy to make. Then you are really only left with the core seat, point form, and if so wanted the lead tip die. You can use those same dies for an array of weights, nose will be the same of course. You likely will also want a jacket size/ trim die if you are sizing down from .22 cal jackets, and you may want one even if you use proper .17 cal jackets as when you need shorter jackets for lighter weights you often don't want or need the excess hollow jacket. you should be able to make those two dies as well, if you need help for ideas just ask, lots of good folks here.
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:02 AM
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actually your probably better drawing from 20 cal if you use 22 cal jacket becomes to thick. It sounds like funding might be an issue, and steel dies are not a problem to you so you might also consider Larry Blackman

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Old 05-13-2014, 04:51 PM
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I think this bost sunk before it even set sail!

Berger wont sell jackets.

But thanks to all for the effort
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