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Old 01-30-2019, 06:23 AM
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Concerning used 223 brass, sounds like Kevin Gullette and trapperdan offer pretty good advice.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:27 PM
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I kind of figure if and or when I get a .20 VT that instead of spending $2-300 on equipment to make it, I will be using one of the guys that forms it. $40 per hundred, ready to neck turn from High Plains brass!
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:09 PM
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I got lucky and sourced over a 1000 rounds of 221FB brass when I took the 20VT plunge. That should last me a while.

As to the 223 brass, and I am not an expert that some of these guys are, I would sort to the brand that you want to load as LE brass is often several brands based on costs and availability. Second, take your time. I have found that forcing my way through the process without taking a break gets old and takes the fun out of it. Might suggest just determining a reasonable number before you start for a sitting and then stop before it gets old.

My FIL converted a bunch of 223 to 17M4. I don't have the patience to do that project. He acquired the converting dies and motorized a neck turner to speed up that process, but it still took a lot of time. To the extent that you can, figure out a way to mechanize the process, that may help some.

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Old 01-30-2019, 08:37 PM
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My two cents. Sorted (year), prepped, new LC cases will yield top quality, life-time 20VT brass. Not saying it is better than the rest but I AM saying that it is at least as good as any other.
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Old 01-31-2019, 06:21 PM
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I kind of figure if and or when I get a .20 VT that instead of spending $2-300 on equipment to make it, I will be using one of the guys that forms it. $40 per hundred, ready to neck turn from High Plains brass!
High Plains Brass is a good way to go whenever they may have it in stock. I've been on their waiting list for awhile now.
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Old 01-31-2019, 07:24 PM
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High Plains does a nice job of forming the VT. Just be ready to accept mixed headstamps, then final length trim, thickness trim, de-bur flash holes, uniform primer pockets and anneal. It's a great price, just be aware of the amount of time you still need to put into it.

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Old 02-01-2019, 12:22 PM
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:39 PM
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Buddy made up a jig years ago to cut 30-30 brass down on the band saw. Seems like you could cut 10-12 at a time. Changed the blade too.
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Old 02-01-2019, 04:38 PM
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High Plains does a nice job of forming the VT. Just be ready to accept mixed headstamps, then final length trim, thickness trim, de-bur flash holes, uniform primer pockets and anneal. It's a great price, just be aware of the amount of time you still need to put into it.
I get that, and if I was shooting sage rats like you lucky guys, I am sure it would be worth it. I kind of forgot but I still have 300 pc of Remington .221fb brass set aside for a .20VT. I see some have done a single pass in a .20 VT die along with normal prep work and had success. Possibly when I retire I will have more time for case forming! Right now working 15-20 hrs of OT a week, I will pay someone else. Hopefully next spring I will have a chance to make the trek half way across the country and help thin the sage rat population and run out of ammo, IF Oregon still allows ammo by then.
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Old 02-01-2019, 06:03 PM
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I have formed several thousand and I use the same procedures as posted by Ramos with the exception of , I have a small cordless reciprocating saw with a fine metal cutting blade that I cut the excess off at the top of the second forming. then a quick file and it's close to full length. for me, the Redding forming dies make all the difference. I can't imagine forming without them. I also have two presses set up next to each other which help with production. good luck.
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