terrific 20 and 17 books

[Doghunter12]

Am interested in the terrific 20 and the terrific 17 books by Todd Kindler
Wondering if they are of valuable information?
Thought I might purchase for a shooting partner.
Input would be appreciated
Chuck

[rider]

I have the 17 caliber book. There is good info in the book but be very careful on the loads that Todd has developed. They were way beyond the loads that my guns would handle.
Rider

[Bill K]

Lots of good information by Todd in both books, and his various cartridges on each caliber.
But as mentioned, you want to start way low of the max loads he used and shows in the books, work up to the max in your rifle/s with caution.
I have both and read through them fairly often.

[gopher]

I don't use hard copy reloading data anymore but I think the Terrific 20's is a must have. Enjoy

[coyotezapper]

Originally Posted by Bill K

Lots of good information by Todd in both books, and his various cartridges on each caliber.
But as mentioned, you want to start way low of the max loads he used and shows in the books, work up to the max in your rifle/s with caution.
I have both and read through them fairly often.

This ^^^^^^^

[southernman]

Dog hunter, I will take them,
I send you a PM tonight,
As long I can pay you from Canada, and you are prepared to ship.

opps guess I read that wrong, thought you were selling.

Regards Southernman

[Bill K]

This is just a thought, but maybe if you contacted Kindler, he just may have a copy or two around that he would sell. Worth a email or phone call anyway too find out. ( even via The Woodchuck Den, who knows ? )

[.17 Longshot]

Loved the stories in Sensational Seventeens but personally had no use for the load data provided. Good to have on the book shelf or next to the crapper though.

[Bayou City Boy]

I love the books as a history reference to his various 17 and 20 caliber cartridges. As for his load data, start low and work up from maybe the bottom or middle. He loaded hot for a reason: Get the best possible velocity possible to sell the new cartridge designs to the public..

In talking with Todd on the phone years ago, it became obvious very quickly that to him that brass was an expendable item. If the load stretched a primer pocket/s on the first load, no biggie. You just got new piece/s of brass and moved on to get the best possible velocities possible.... Again, he knew back then that high velocity numbers sold cartridge deigns.

And I doubt that using coated bullets is the magical solution to his load data. For me.... I stay away from his load data entirely unless I'm at the very bottom of his rung on a certain cartridge. And then I proceed going up with caution. But again I do like having the books on my book shelf from an historical prospective.

-BCB

[Bill K]

Precisely BCB.