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Old 10-04-2017, 01:13 AM
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Default 6.5 GRENDEL vs 6.8 REM SPC

Looking for a midrange (200-400yd) to acquire, and I have read all about the 6.5 GREN, but looking at the data it seems the 6.8SPC is very similar, anyone wanting to chime in with 2cents..........

Platform would probably be a CZ527 for either Coyotes, PD's and paper mainly......

Don
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Old 10-04-2017, 06:14 AM
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Looking for a midrange (200-400yd) to acquire, and I have read all about the 6.5 GREN, but looking at the data it seems the 6.8SPC is very similar, anyone wanting to chime in with 2cents..........

Platform would probably be a CZ527 for either Coyotes, PD's and paper mainly......

Don
It may be similar at the muzzle, but I think the Grendel does better downrange. My CZ527 Grendel really likes the 129 gr. Nosler LRAB bullet pushed by 31.0 gr. of CFE223 at ~2500 fps.

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Old 10-04-2017, 12:22 PM
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It may be similar at the muzzle, but I think the Grendel does better downrange. My CZ527 Grendel really likes the 129 gr. Nosler LRAB bullet pushed by 31.0 gr. of CFE223 at ~2500 fps.

John
Why? Why better down range? Subjective or objective?
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Old 10-04-2017, 02:01 PM
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Okay, I see what you mean.

http://abesguncave.com/6-5-grendel-v...t-perspective/
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Old 10-04-2017, 02:42 PM
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Douglas,

Thank you for posting this.
While it really highlights my question at the 200-500yds ranges, it does solve the question the same way that the 223 or 9mm solves the questions in their related genre's --
POPULARITY = LOWER COST !!
THE GRENDEL IS MORE POPULAR AND LESS EXPENSIVE FOR THE SAME PERFORMANCE Oh, and YES, it also drifts a little less as well.

Too many choices, to little $$$$$

John,

Thanks also for your loading info--- I am probably going with the 527 6.5 GRENDEL - What I am surprised about is that CZ is not offering this in their Varmint barrel seems it would be more stable and cooler........ I guess it means another new barrel !!!!!

Thanks again

Don

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Old 10-04-2017, 07:07 PM
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I am currently in Alberta Moose hunting, see my report here.

One of the other hunters was hunting with a 6.5 Creedmore on Remington 700 Action. He did not get a moose. I definitely would have like to see how it performed on that animal.

By subjective comparison only, I saw how my 338/06 IMP with a Sierra 250 Game King at 2950 fps with Lake City ball cases performed on a moose. I have shot a lot of deer and an Elk with it. I would not consider any 6.5 or 6.8 for moose.

Yes, I know the Swedes love there 6.5 for moose.

The 6.5's and the 6.8 are good deer cartridges. I have just ordered a new Stag Arms 6.8 SPC bull barrel upper that I intend to set up for Coyotes.
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Old 12-25-2017, 03:28 PM
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Why? Why better down range? Subjective or objective?
For me it has always come down to wind drift at distance, therefore the 6.5G.

Or in my case, 6mmFatRat. My load is 95SMK/pointed/.5BC, going 2870 fps in a 22" 8 twist. You'd have to see how well it does, almost a 243Win in the wind. Recoil and rifle movement isn't much more than a 223 as well.

With a 6mmART40 which is very similar to the FatRat, I won a long range night match shooting against bolt rifles in the better long range bolt rifle calibers. That shows the capabilities of this small cartridge case.

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Old 12-26-2017, 06:11 AM
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double d don't let the size of the barrel throw you. I have a 6.8 spc II with a fn barrel, it is not a varmint weight. it shoots most everything under .5" including 95 ttsx Barnes bullets.
I thought cz produced some of the 6.5 grendells in the 527
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