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Old 11-17-2019, 10:47 PM
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For what it's worth, I called Berger about a run of those 30gr Match BT's.
I have a .17 Tactical load for them at just a titch over 3,900 FPS, great coyote bullet! I'm thinking I'll run outta barrel before I run outta the stock of Bergers I have. I then plan on replacing this barrel with something more barrel life friendly. Besides, at my age and condition I don't see 1400 coyotes in my future so I'll likely run outta me before I run outta components, only the good Lord knows that one I guess so I leave that in his capable hands .
Back to the bullets, I don't remember the required number they wanted to make a run but it was massive and expensive as memory serves! That's a bit back however. It seems like a 100,000 maybe but again with the crummy memory.
Since Walt left I'd sure rather have Chan's bullets anyway.
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Old 11-19-2019, 03:36 AM
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They used to do a run if you'd buy 100k. But then they stopped making jackets for a lot of stuff and that option went away completely.

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Old 11-19-2019, 04:38 AM
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I would buy 100k and sell them in Canada if they would make them.
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Old 11-19-2019, 08:59 PM
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If they were reliable supplying jackets I'd have George make me a set of dies and I would make them for you. Problem is it's not worth the financial risk without a more reliable source of jackets. I've considered making them.
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:18 AM
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Can someone explain what makes Berger jackets so great?, And why can't someone replicate them?
Shoot Nagel's fantastic bullets but have always wondered what makes the j-4 jacket so admirable?
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Old 11-21-2019, 03:53 AM
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Why are 17 caliber jackets hard to find? Berger/J-4 pretty much controls the 17 caliber jacket market and requires a purchase of 48K at one time. Since 17 caliber is a niche market, that's a big investment for most small producers.

https://bergerbullets.com/products/j...ision-jackets/

I'm not sure where Chan is getting his jackets these days, but it took him roughly 2 years to find a source for whatever jacket he is currently using after the J-4's dried up at his house.

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Old 11-21-2019, 04:00 AM
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The short answer is wall thickness uniformity. I have records of J4 jacket wall thickness measurements of many lots dating back to the mid 1970's and they have always been .0003 or less, some far less. There are other sources of jackets but they are either not acceptable wall runout or the source makes all they can produce of the more mainstream 6mm and .22 jackets. The very same reason Berger stopped production.
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Old 11-21-2019, 11:49 AM
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It's been a couple years since I talked to him but Chan was making his own jackets last I knew.

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Old 11-22-2019, 08:20 PM
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The jacket Berger lists is too short for a 30gr hpbt bullet. IIRC it needs to be .630" to make a 30gr.


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Old 11-22-2019, 11:11 PM
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https://bergerbullets.com/discontinued-bullets/


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Yesterday I did something that I normally don’t do. I picked up a hitch hiker. After he got into my car, he said to me, “I’m surprised that you picked me up. I could be a serial killer.”

I replied, “I'm not worried because what are the odds of there being two serial killers in the same car at the same time?”

He suddenly got very quiet, and he got out of my car at the next stop light.

Women and cats will do as they please. Men and dogs should relax and just get used to the idea.

Last year I joined a support group for procrastinators. We haven’t met yet.

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