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Amazing Savage deals!
CDNN. Savage 11 with scope for $299 after savage rebate
Cabelas. Savage 12 varmint weight, 26” barrel $319 after Savage $100 rebate I bought one of each to play with... both in 6.5 Creedmoor.Just need to find some range time now! |
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Savage QC?
I'm wondering if Savage is having some serious QC issues, as today I read in the paper that another of their 110 muzzleloaders has blown up. The photo showed a stainless action/barrel with the barrel blown up and split almost the entire length. The shooter suffered serious injuries, and apparently he is not alone.
The article said there are multiple lawsuits filed against Savage for marketing sub-standard rifles; inferior barrel steel was the listed culprit, with Savage being aware of the issue. Not a Savage owner or fan, but gee wiz, multiple split barrels? What's up with that?
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(multiple split barrels? What's up with that?)
JMHO but: First thought is, somebody doesn't know how to load a muzzleloader. A charge of 50 or 60 grains of black powder is good so why not go to 100 grains and really get out there? But we all know it's Savage's fault. |
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Amazing Savage Deals
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Bill, I'm not blaming anyone, but before you come to judgment, perhaps you should read the entire article, as the last shooter/victim had been shooting his rifle for years with the same load, then on a hunt, it blew for no apparent reason.
Inferior metallurgy/barrel steel has been proven (so far) to be the culprit. Let's face it, if you buy a Savage, you buy knowingly that you are not buying the crème of the crop in terms of rifle quality. The last shooter lost fingers and has extensive nerve damage, so a hefty lawsuit is in the works against Savage. Bummer, as the manufacturers have enough liability to deal with on a regular basis. Late Edit: As a lark, I Googled "muzzleloader blows up", and I got numerous images and articles on this subject. But it seems almost all of the reports and images are of Savage muzzleloader rifles. Draw your own conclusions.
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Rick in Oregon - The East Side, where common sense still prevails. NRA Life, OHA, VHA, Vietnam Veterans of America Last edited by Rick in Oregon; 12-06-2017 at 03:33 PM. |
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Amazing Savage Deals
Rick. I am not blaming anyone, for their opinions. Just making a statement from what I have seen personally. Have dealt with firearms for many a year, along with personal experience from 28 years of LE and being a certified firearms instructor ( by the way in the first class started at the LA PD academy, with Jeff cooper and others way back in the early 60's) and doing Hunter Safety instruction, for some years. A person can see and hear of problems with various companies, their products and service, and while some can be true, most firearm accidents, damage and injuries are caused by carelessness on the person's fault. Just saying and not putting anyone down, for their opinions. Bill K
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Rick is not off base.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colle...9e3cc32a9.html From the Link: "Savage Arms started making the 10ML-II in 2001. It was designed to withstand the use of smokeless powder, which appealed to some shooters because it didn't require the same messy cleanup as black powder.The company's knowledge of the barrel problems is becoming clear after years of lawsuits." I live on the same planet that Davy Crockett and James Butler Hickock once lived on, but so far in my life no one has bought me a cup of coffee as a result. -BCB
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I miss mean Tweets, competence, and $1.79 per gallon gasoline. Yo no creo en santos que orinan. Women and cats will do as they please. Men and dogs should relax and just get used to the idea. Going keyboard postal over something that you read on the internet is like seeing a pile of dog crap on the sidewalk and choosing to step in it rather than stepping around it. If You're Afraid To Offend, You Can't Be Honest - Thomas Paine Last edited by Bayou City Boy; 12-06-2017 at 04:18 PM. |
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Makes me wanna go buy one of them Remmy's with the killer triggers
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I understand that savage made 2 muzzle loaders, 1 was for smokeless or black powder and the other was for black powder only. I am not sure but think one was sold by bass pro and was the black powder only gun.
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Exactly. And, I have never had a problem with Blue Dot, and 4300 fps is safe in "my" gun, The Brass "should" take 70kpsi and last 25 reloadings... Did they get a bad batch of barrel steel? IDK. Kind of Like the Sako 75 a few years back. Not a fan of a smokeless powder front stuffer myself.
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